To people saying Lockouts will kill the game.

[YuriRamona]

Lockouts aren't killing the game, they are keeping it alive in it's initial phase because people are still paying, whereas without the lockouts a lot of people will have already canceled their subscription due to a true nothing to do.

You kind of answered your own concern. Lockouts are a means to an end: encouraging continued subscriptions, that keep development money flowing and players active. They should not be an end to itself, but will be replaced or lifted as content rolls in.

Players are concerned because lockouts have become a staple of FFXIV's FUTURE development (e.g. Crystal Tower and EM Primals). I agree that players should be much more forgiving in the early stages of the game for the developers to work out the kinks. Launching with severe lockouts is to be expected.

However, having the first major patch to not only implement more lockouts but also keep the existing ones in place is what is incredibly controversial.

What people are upset about is that SE is not using lockouts to bide time for future content, but continues to use it as a placeholder for future content.

[Randalthor]

The problem with these threads that respond to lockout threads is that they offer the polar opposite argument. It's not black and white.

I'll list out the various potential CT lockout options

1) CT no lockout w/ loot lockout across all jobs - This is the option they are going with in 2.1. You can run as much as you want per week, but can only loot one item across all jobs. If you run CT as much as you can across all your jobs, but once you loot an item, regardless of job, you are locked out on loot until the next week.

2) CT lockout w/o loot lockout across all jobs - This is how coils runs. In this case, you can run CT only once a week but potentially loot everything across all jobs.

3) CT no lockout w/o loot lockout across all jobs - In this option, you can run CT as much as you want per week and you can loot gear every time you run CT. You can theoretically run CT as many times as you can per week and loot everything and gear all of your class. This is the most open option.

4) CT lockout w/ loot lockout across all jobs - In this option, you can only run CT once a week and once you loot an item, regardless of job, you are locked out on loot until the next week. This is the most restrictive option.

5) My recommendation - Run CT as many times as you want per week but allow the player to loot one piece of gear PER JOB. If I loot a CNJ/WHM/SCH item, I can't loot on another one of that type of the next week, but I can still loot on a THM/SMN item if I wanted to. This removes the restriction slightly and lets you gear your alts at a moderate pace(which in my case is the point of CT since I am almost all ilvl90).

Take all options into consideration before creating ANOTHER thread that bashes ANOTHER lockout thread. My recommendation may not be the best one and it will have its criticisms, but at least I am putting some critical thinking into this issue and not blindly creating these black and white threads. There is a middle ground and we can offer constructive feedback to SE with logic so that they can hopefully take it into account (maybe I am naive) and they can make things better in the future.

[permbanned]

You must be one of them angry "Lockout" players. Lol.

And you must be one of those underachievers that likes to govern how others should play and gets upset at the thought of anyone having more than you, because let's be honest, that's the real reason you defend lockouts.

To be honest I don't really care. You seemed to be though coming at me like that. And calling me underachievers...look at you. Lol.

Because this is my main character <3 Mhmmm

[AlmaMalma]

I agree, there should be a lockout. Once you make more than 20 posts on the forums, you're blocked from making any more till next Monday @ 4PM.

[Lelouch001]

You must be one of them angry "Lockout" players. Lol.

The fact that you put "lol" at the end of your sentence just screams of passive aggression and a red flag to not take you seriously.

[Taeyee]

And you must be one of those underachievers that likes to govern how others should play and gets upset at the thought of anyone having more than you, because let's be honest, that's the real reason you defend lockouts.

To be honest I don't really care. You seemed to be though coming at me like that. And calling me underachievers...look at you. Lol.

Because this is my main character <3 Mhmmm

This guy...no words XD.

[C-croft]

A loot lockout on CT is ridiculous. When minimum entry requirements are iLvl 70 for coil, why would you lockout ilvl 80. In a sense, you can now gear up for coil with myth and ilvl 80, but ultimately, you are going to be able to go into coil anyway. That and it's been said to gear your other jobs in CT, but the lockout makes it mini coil.

I am hoping when the live letter hits tomorrow, they will talk about the loot lockout. It would have been nice if you got 1 free need lot, and the rest of the runs will be greed only.

[Taeyee]

The fact that you put "lol" at the end of your sentence just screams of passive aggression and a red flag to not take you seriously.

This guy wow...

[Millimidget]

Ok I have seen thread after thread on lockouts, and how it will kill the game, how it punishes you having leveled multiple classes etc etc, but seriously what do you think you would all do with no lockouts? Have all classes FATE grinded to level 50 by now (or already there from 1.0) spam coil every waking moment, then after 2 months be complaining there is nothing to do because all you iLvl 90 geared jobs have no need for other dungeons or primals, cancel your sub until the next patch (which you would probably complete in a few days and cancel etc).

Hmm, cancel after playing for two months and return for a month every time a major update releases, or cancel now because you're only playing once a week...

[Zezlar]

One of two evils. I think I would rather actually be able to play the game, rather than wait once a week for a lockout.

Even if we had significantly lower drop rates I would be happier then I am right now.