FFXIV: The 1 Job at 50 Monday night raiding 8 man FC game.

[BloodPact]

Mog has a valid point of view; however, there is something I completely disagree with... Players finishing their gear runs and still going into the dungeons to help others. Sadly this is not the case (in my opinion and what I've seen not only here but in FFXI as well.) Not saying 100% behave this way, but by far the majority of the playerbase is extremely selfish and will only dedicate time to running dungeons after their chances are done for the week in extreme cases, like irl friends. You'll see what I mean once Crystal Tower comes by unless (unless it proves to be a decent tome farming option, in which case there is always something to get out of it) ... By the end of the week ask the raid how many are running and already got their drop for that week. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong (though something tells me I won't.)

[Edenholt]

It means that our FC of 20 people has 4 left over (8+8+4), and they get to pick up group Coil because the other 2 parties can't help or take them.

As I stated in the OP, if your FC isn't a multiple of 8, someone's getting alienated.

We created a Linkshell and invited nice and helpful people. We always have someone that are whiling to help or to just play together, because it happens sometimes that most of us are busy already or aren't online. We create some nice in-game friendships and possible alliances for progression and pretty much everything. If you don't want to think out the box, then you will still have trouble with almost in games.

[Azurus]

B-b-but I don't get a chance to play with anyone else at all in this content without screwing over the 7 I have been running it with!!!

fixed that for you

We created a Linkshell and invited nice and helpful people. We always have someone that are whiling to help or to just play together, because it happens sometimes that most of us are busy already or aren't online. We create some nice in-game friendships and possible alliances for progression and pretty much everything. If you don't want to think out the box, then you will still have trouble with almost in games.

once all those nice and helpful people are staticed up with the odd men out from your fc you will still be stuck to your own individual cliques...i dont see how that solves the problem. All it does is make the problem on a larger scale. A lot of us dont care about gearr!!!!!!! We want to play with other people without screwing over those we have been running with! sure I can just quit my static and start a new one every once in a while, but i happen to enjoy playing with my group a lot. Why should I have to choose who to run with and not be able to help them all equally?

[zdub303]

The CT loot lockout system would be so unbelievably perfect for coil its not even funny. Especially considering 1-4 is easily puggable now (my kills for 1-4 all had at least 3 people my group pugged). You can already see a very different type of culture forming for twintania (at least on Coeurl). People are making LSs specifically for pugging turn 5 since it is content that a lot of people can easily pug any time. My FC is suffering the same issue. If your static is missing a person for a night, you can't get a sub from your other static and if you run without someone they end up getting locked out. So much unnecessary drama caused by the coil dungeon lockout.

[permbanned]

Mog has a valid point of view; however, there is something I completely disagree with... Players finishing their gear runs and still going into the dungeons to help others. Sadly this is not the case (in my opinion and what I've seen not only here but in FFXI as well.) Not saying 100% behave this way, but by far the majority of the playerbase is extremely selfish and will only dedicate time to running dungeons after their chances are done for the week in extreme cases, like irl friends. You'll see what I mean once Crystal Tower comes by unless (unless it proves to be a decent tome farming option, in which case there is always something to get out of it) ... By the end of the week ask the raid how many are running and already got their drop for that week. Hopefully I'll be proven wrong (though something tells me I won't.)

I've observed the opposite on my server. PUG titan groups are nearly all relic players that are just there to help because they're bored and there's nothing to do. I know I've capped myth tomes on titan pugs alone a couple weeks but even spamming titan gets boring after the 100th time.

[zdub303]

Sadly this is not the case (in my opinion and what I've seen not only here but in FFXI as well.) Not saying 100% behave this way, but by far the majority of the playerbase is extremely selfish and will only dedicate time to running dungeons after their chances are done for the week in extreme cases, like irl friends.

There are plenty of people who are like this, for sure. However, there are probably just as many who are the opposite. I honestly, would happily run coil a couple nights a week (1-4 is only about an hour of time after all) just to help my FCmates gear up. Its also in my self interest to do so since they are the people im doing twintania with as well.

[Azurus]

There are plenty of people who are like this, for sure. However, there are probably just as many who are the opposite. I honestly, would happily run coil a couple nights a week (1-4 is only about an hour of time after all) just to help my FCmates gear up. Its also in my self interest to do so since they are the people im doing twintania with as well.

I would love nothing more than to be able to run coil with my static, help our other static if they have a missing person one week, and form another group for my friend and gf once they are caught up. Sadly I can not do this and it is looking like im either going to have to torture myself with an alt or quit the static im already in....whoopie choices!

[DoctorMog]

I would love nothing more than to be able to run coil with my static, help our other static if they have a missing person one week, and form another group for my friend and gf once they are caught up. Sadly I can not do this and it is looking like im either going to have to torture myself with an alt or quit the static im already in....whoopie choices!

You'll end up leveling another character just to do coil with them.
Because screw 1 character all jobs. Its about 9 characters 9 jobs!

FFXIV... Why you so backwards....

[Youmu]

People log in for days other than Monday? I never knew.

[Mayin]

Honestly, it's getting tiresome seeing people reply with this statement on a new topic EVERY DAY. Shouldn't you be leveling up your crafts or something? Go out to a bar every so often. Hang out with your friends, clean your room, get a good nights sleep. Play any new MMORPG and post about how there are people completing all the content in one week after they speed though it. Plenty of things you can be doing.

Yessir check my crafts. Im well on my way to being a chef master : D NOM NOM NOM