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  1. #1
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    Strawberrycocoa's Avatar
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    Milanda Starlight
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 90

    Summoner or Scholar?

    Trying to decide which upgrade path for my Arcanist. I love the Wither and Die of DoTs, but I also would like to be useful to a party beyond burning damage.

    Also curious what cross-class skills work for Summoner. Apparently they use Thaumaturge and... Archer for some reason?
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    Yurika Huin
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 80
    thats because you need archer and THM for black mage.
    all I can say is, if you decide to become Summoner or Scholar focus on one and not both.
    Personally I'd go with Scholar because when you think about things like Amdapor Keep and Aurum Vale, the pet class is at a disadvantage due to pets taking a lot of debuffs and it being difficult/if not impossible to clear them yourself when you're a summoner. (Scholar has leeches at least)

    However if you want to DPS, then just go with summoner. You can still be useful to a party because without a DPS enemies don't die :-)
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    Darkstride's Avatar
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    Ruin Darkstride
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Summoner can Swiftcast + Ressurect, if you consider that to be useful beyond burning damage.
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    Lulla Bell
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 52
    You could always unlock both, and that way whilst soloing you can play as summoner, and then you have scholar for group play if you want to try healing. Both level up together with your arcanist level. The only thing to consider is where you're going to focus your stat points.

    I'm a healer at heart so it was scholar for me + I love the fairies <3.
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    Hiroradius's Avatar
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    Radius Braveheart
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Basically do you want to heal or dps, that's all. If you want to heal then you go Sch, if you want to dps then you go Sum.

    Don't try and do both, it's not worth it, don't split your points 15/15 with int/mnd again it's not worth it. Go dps or healer.

    If you want to use sum but still able to heal, then level white mage and be a white mage healer and a summoner dps, or vice versa so the scholar healer and black mage dps.. but too many people keep trying and thinking and expecting sum/sch to work and it doesn't, it just causes headaches.
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    Swear_Bear's Avatar
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    Swear Bear
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    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I say unlock both. Try both and see which play style you prefer before you invest stat points. If you opt for SMN, but still want a healing class, there's always WHM. Likewise, if you go SCH, you can always DPS on BLM.
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    1. The number of Lv.50 classes/jobs you have says nothing about your skill.
    2. FATEs are responsible for the majority of Lv.50 "derps".
    3. Don't blame a healer if you died in red zones; that was all on you.
    4. As a healer, healing is your top priority; DPSing comes second.
    5. As a tank, your healer can only keep you alive for so long; avoid red zones, too.
    6. As a DPS, you're partially responsible for hate management, too.
    7. Don't belittle newbs for their lack of skill or knowledge; you were one of them once.

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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Character
    Yoso Carrasco
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    Quote Originally Posted by Strawberrycocoa View Post
    Also curious what cross-class skills work for Summoner. Apparently they use Thaumaturge and... Archer for some reason?
    Archer gives you a +Damage buff and a buff that reduces your enmity gain temporarily, and trust me when I say that SMN can pull a ton of hate.
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