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  1. #61
    Player
    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Nov 2013
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    Gridania
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    Smily Kweh
    World
    Maduin
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 100
    If enrage was meant to be game over it would be, it's not so it wasn't meant to be. It never made since that coil is supposed to be the endgame and you have a 12min timer. Also I wouldn't mind being a healer in the traditional method, I usually slow my dps at first so that the other mage gets most the hate and therefor all the lasers and I don't have to dodge much. Being a healer in the second method seems liek way more work then being a dps, so to dps its easier but to tank/healer its a bit more intense. I do this because while I have reduced my lag it's still pretty bad and this game doesn't allow for any sort of lag in endgame if you have lag you either have to be proactively compensating for it or you are stuck at garuda never to move forward. There is no forgiveness in this game no fight to come back. So why you may have your perfect internet connection my only option now is to hardwire. I finally fixed most of the lag and then game registers this and boost up my graphic and that pisses me off I want my graphics low so I can survive and I set them low. don't go oh better connection, screw your low settings and screw the red lines and letting him see animations lets make his character look smoother. I can do that on my own in the inn watching cutscenes I would rather survive a fight.
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  2. #62
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    PiedPiper's Avatar
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    Character
    Pied Piper
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Honestly, you guys aren't crediting SE with being very clever. I'm pretty sure it occurred to them that the amount of damage the T2 enrage would generate would be something players could learn to manage, since.. you know... they coded its numbers and all.

    They may have intended it as a kind of over time, sort of like turn 4's. Survive the fight up to now, boss probably low hp, give them this enrage to pressure the group to finish or die. And I'm sure that when they made the decision to have the boss stop using other moves at this point, it may well have occurred to them that groups might try to tackle this mechanic rather than the other mechanics.

    Just because there are alternate/multiple solutions to the problem (namely: acquire loot) doesn't mean they are "poor design" or "exploit." It just means there are multiple solutions. Turn 2 is all about cost-benefit choices. Which nodes to kill? Kill an extra or have more time on boss? Face the lazers and rot or face the enrage? Different groups will make different choices.

    One method people use for rot is the staggered stack up (first person gets it, stands in centet, second person runs in right before explosion, third, fourth, etc until they are all stacked so it automatically cascades.) This isn't an exploit. Imo its not needed and we don't do it, but it is a alternate solution.
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  3. #63
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    Aethyriel's Avatar
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    Oct 2013
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    Kira Ithilium
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 50
    people who simply suck at gaming will always find cheap ways to beat things, I'd never do it cause I think it's just too lame but I can see it becoming a trend; most players want rewards without actually doing something even remotely hard for it.
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  4. #64
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    Myrhn's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Myrhn Shirayuki
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Thanotos View Post
    And every time you say something stupid in forums, SE should Double your Sub fee.
    I really hope they do that. Tha way people like you find another place to go.
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    I love the official forums, they tell you to use the search for thread about what you wanted to talk but when you use it they judge for necro a thread.


  5. #65
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    SecsyMancat's Avatar
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    Secsy Mancat
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    Did this this week, makes for a nice little light show. Just wanted to see what it was like before it gets patched. I'm pretty sure SE was expecting this to go off in groups at the tail end of the bosses HP, with rot still out. IMO this just made the fight way too easy. Another issue this is causing is now only 1/8 players looking for T4 groups is tanks. For this reason and the fact that this fight is now a simplistic loot pinata I hope it gets patched.
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  6. #66
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    dimsumdarren's Avatar
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    Character
    Sweaty Betty
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    gotta be honest....our group tried this last night. we on turn 4 and quite well geared....we found it a lot harder lol, and way more stressful...maybe we just missing a key point to the strategy
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  7. #67
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    Bayman's Avatar
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    Character
    Bayman Man
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    How did a healer only have Iffrits, don't you need a relic to get into coil? I haven't tried to join without one so I don't know for sure.
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  8. #68
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    PiedPiper's Avatar
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    Pied Piper
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bayman View Post
    How did a healer only have Iffrits, don't you need a relic to get into coil? I haven't tried to join without one so I don't know for sure.
    You need to have cleared titan hard mode. That doesn't entail that you have a relic, and even if you do, you could enter on a class you don't have relic for yet.

    Bigger question: There are people who don't have all relics? Plebeians.


    (J/k)
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  9. #69
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    Ashira's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashira Lockhart
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    Even though our group was able to one-shot Turn 1 on a regular basis, we still tried out the Burn tactic this week to keep things fresh, and it turned out to be a lot of fun.

    The same goes for Turn 2. We don't have any problems with Turn 2, but we're going to try this tactic out next week anyway, since running the same content over and over can get a little boring; this actually sounds like a fun new tactic with a different party requirement.
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  10. #70
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    Fosi's Avatar
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    Character
    Fosi Bear
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Goldsmith Lv 50
    Hi, i have a little Question, is this a Exploid.

    I have a discussion in my Guild, the most player think it is an exploid when we kill the ADS in Enraged mode.
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