[Dev 1031] Guildmarks Exchanged for BCNM

[Elkwood]

Yoshi P... Devs... Whoever... Many of us currently have a plethora of Unused Guildmarks that once we reach a certain stage really have no use or value. With a good portion of the game geared towards Leves Factions etc. Why not extend that system further and allow us to spend Guildmarks on BCNM similar to Beast Seals in FFXI.

BCNM were fun challenging fights with good rewards that a majority of the FFXI community loved to do as a way to kick back and get some good group based content. I feel this would be a most excellent way to kick off the new battle system as well as get some good fun group based content into the game which is something people have been yearning for.

BCNM battle were awesome for content because you could start doing them at various levels, 40-75, and every 10 levels or so you could unlock better BCNM. as I said before they were short challenging fights with good rewards they really brought LS communities together, plus 4-8 man battle BCNM would really fit in well with your current programming direction.

[Req]

I have school and work and a life outside of final fantasy, I dont have time to collect guild marks like all the hardcore players.

[MeowyWowie]

No thanks. I've grown to completely hate leves with a passion since release. I dread having to get guild marks already because it means I will need to do more leves. I hate them enough to say that I would be in favor of them being completely removed from the game.

But of course that's not fair, nor is it realistic. I know plenty of others enjoy them and I am not that selfish to suggest something like that. I can just as easily choose not to do them as I currently do.

But seriously, no more crap that requires guild marks besides training books and some abilities, please. Give us something other than guildleves.

[Eruantien]

I would say bring back signet style points with the company system. That way you are not tied down to the type of event of style of play. Every form of sp earnt gains points be it inside leves/outside some other event

[Drogyn]

Wonder if the deaspected crystals tie into this somehow? They drop in a similar fashion to the seals? I haven't read much on the forums for forgive me if this topic has been covered already!

[Rentahamster]

BCNM fights are awesome. Easy to implement content without the hassle of having to write a whole bunch of lore and dialogue.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Dream-BCNM%29


Add in timetrials and leaderboards to encourage player to player competition, and this would add a whole other layer of depth and entertainment.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ge-Competition

[Elkwood]

No thanks. I've grown to completely hate leves with a passion since release. I dread having to get guild marks already because it means I will need to do more leves. I hate them enough to say that I would be in favor of them being completely removed from the game.

But of course that's not fair, nor is it realistic. I know plenty of others enjoy them and I am not that selfish to suggest something like that. I can just as easily choose not to do them as I currently do.

But seriously, no more crap that requires guild marks besides training books and some abilities, please. Give us something other than guildleves.

Meowy and what about those that 50-60k in GM currently have all the abilities and nothing to spend them on? That is what I am talking about. No one says you have to do leves this is just another way to expand what is currently the core system of the game and to provide some more content.

I have school and work and a life outside of final fantasy, I dont have time to collect guild marks like all the hardcore players.

I understand this may be to Hardcore for you and that is fine, but also keep in mind there are 2 types of people playing this game, there needs to be content provided for both playerbases. Believe me this is not Hardcore, Collecting GM is simple and you probably already have an excess of them.

[BlaiseLallaise]

Although I agree that BCNMs were great in FFXI, I don't think that guild marks can smoothly correlate to a BCNM-style battle. IMO, it would be better to do something with them that makes sense within the bounds of the game, like creating mid to high-level class-specific gear, or additional abilities that may be useful after the battle reform.

[MeowyWowie]

Meowy and what about those that 50-60k in GM currently have all the abilities and nothing to spend them on? That is what I am talking about. No one says you have to do leves this is just another way to expand what is currently the core system of the game and to provide some more content.



I understand this may be to Hardcore for you and that is fine, but also keep in mind there are 2 types of people playing this game, there needs to be content provided for both playerbases. Believe me this is not Hardcore, Collecting GM is simple and you probably already have an excess of them.

I understand that many people have excess Guild Marks. But the reason they did all those leves was obviously for the SP and not the Marks. If they want to add some more abilities or training books purchasable with Guild Marks, cool. Hell, they can even make Anima obtainable through guild marks, that would probably instantly solve the problem.

But for something like BCNMs, please don't make it a chore to gather what is needed for entry. It's doesn't have to be hardcore, and by no means was I implying that. A suggestion I made earlier in another thread to improve XII's Mark system would suffice.

Essentially, add unique drops to the loot tables of all mobs in the game and give us a Mark list in the Avd. Guild. Each Mark (BCNM) would require different combinations of this loot and perhaps a small fee. They can be fought in the open world but still be exclusive pops to your party alone. The loot required to flag these Marks can fluctuate on a weekly basis so that the same family does not always drop the same loot, to prevent monopolization of a certain species.

That's just one possibility. It improves upon XII's Mark system and FFXI's BCNM/KSNM system. Not hardcore by any means, and it keeps the game world feeling alive since none of the fights are instanced.

I'm sure there's a million other fun ways to implement BCNM style fights in XIV, but please, for the love of god, don't make it Guild Marks.

Edit: Another plus from this system would be encouraging open world SP parties, something this game is terribly lacking. If they make the loot drop from only open world mobs people will have more of a desire to fight them.