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  1. #11
    Player
    Vid's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Iggi Wunohwun
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 90
    I use it on all phases of Coil myself, along with Virus. Especially when we have a Scholar, Summoner, and Black Mage who have these buffs/debuffs it makes it a lot easier. We just rotate them around depending on the fight. Turn 5 it helps out especially with Twintania. Death Sentence is a problem in and of itself, but its also the extra moves she can do right after Death Sentence that can get your tank killed easily. Any mitigation at this point makes it much easier.
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    It's not that I forget, it's just that I don't care.

  2. #12
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    Bigpurpleharness's Avatar
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    Alaik Ropaire
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 80
    All the damn time, it's one of two mitigation cross classes.

    The only time I don't use it is in turn 2 since ADS is a jerk and immune.
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  3. #13
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    Wulfgang Amadeus
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    Hyperion
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Great for WP supertank pulls and still useful for just about every other party situation; worth getting if you're at all serious about WHM. I hated getting DRG to 34 for Blood for Blood (BRD), but I still did it and I'm glad I did.
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  4. #14
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    Bunny Boo
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    All the time every little helps.
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  5. #15
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    Shmunkster's Avatar
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    Character
    Meowla Caith'lan
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Nice. Good thread....I was grinding my Arcanist simply for this.....but at lv28 was feeling the pain and debating it.....but now, with these comments I will continue!

    Bring on the grind!!
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  6. #16
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Character
    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    I use it and Virus every encounter, and normally use it again when it's off CD. I wish the CD was shorter!
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  7. #17
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    Jeremy Dale
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    I don't find it very impressive myself. I use it, but could easily do without it and don't think it was worth the anguish of doing fates on my Arcanist.

    Now it may have its uses later in the game, such as in Bahamut's coil as some have mentioned where I assume the damage is so intense it can make a real difference. To that I can't speak.

    But thus far in my career on FF14, I would consider it a very weak and boring ability and I regret making it a priority of mine to get.

    I think it could use a buff.
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  8. #18
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Dale View Post
    I don't find it very impressive myself. I use it, but could easily do without it and don't think it was worth the anguish of doing fates on my Arcanist.
    It's a free 10% damage reduction for 20s (which nearly always procs) with no MP cost and no GCD usage. There's really zero reason not to use it or have it in the first place. When Twintania is hitting your tank for anything up to 6k damage (with shield oath), you need all the damage mitigation you can get. Be glad you have it already before you do any difficult content.

    WHM isn't the only job that should have it either. If BLMs are serious about doing Turn 5 they should that and Virus both set as cross class abilities aswell.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Menae Dulanis
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Alkimi View Post
    It's a free 10% damage reduction for 20s (which nearly always procs) with no MP cost and no GCD usage. There's really zero reason not to use it or have it in the first place. When Twintania is hitting your tank for anything up to 6k damage (with shield oath), you need all the damage mitigation you can get. Be glad you have it already before you do any difficult content.

    WHM isn't the only job that should have it either. If BLMs are serious about doing Turn 5 they should that and Virus both set as cross class abilities aswell.
    Yeah... just don't wanna grind 14 more ACN levels... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz......
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Faelandaea Dravin
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 58
    I have it . . . it;s on my hot-bar . . . never touched it. i just haven't come across a situation yet where using it would be any benefit at all. In the dungeons I run the tank doesn't even take enough damage to make me even think about it.

    EDIT: Disclaimer - my answer and decision WILL rowl up all the Coil addicts so let me say this skill MAY have it's uses there. So I am not bashing the skill. I am just saying I personally have not had a need for it, and I probably won't. For me getting my Relic +1 is endgame. I got it on my SCH and once I get my +1 on my WHM Relic I am going to relax and level up some other classes, coming in as healer when friends need help. I consider myself a good healer, but I do not have the patience to spend hours on end waiting in line to have the privilege of doing a raid. I just want to get this said before people freak out and say "Well you'll never make it through Coil" . . . I'm not doing Coil LOL.
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    Last edited by Faelandaea; 12-11-2013 at 12:56 AM.

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