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  1. #21
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    Orophin's Avatar
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    Orophin Calmcacil
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Pretty sure it's not working as intended to be able to heal through that damage. An enrage timer is something that's supposed to force you to end an encounter quickly, not start it at >75%.

    With that said I doubt there'll be any repercussions for those who choose to utilize this strategy until SE decides to (if they do) alter the encounter.
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    Last edited by Orophin; 12-10-2013 at 03:08 AM.

  2. #22
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    Doctor Witch
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    Gilgamesh
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    Goldsmith Lv 86
    I'm not sure that it's any more an enrage timer than Emergency Override is at the end of T4. (The damage spam at the end of T4 is high, but it doesn't escalate over time; if there are enough heals to go around you can extend Turn 4 well past the 7 minute mark).

    This strat would make Turn 2 take a minimum of 14-15 minutes, instead of knocking it out in 9-10. The "complex" short fight gets exchanged for a longer one with "simpler" mechanics requiring a custom raid build for extra heals and the ability to rush DPS before mana's depleted.

    I'm seeing this as a tomato/to-mah-to kind of thing.
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  3. #23
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    Soul Burn
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    Adamantoise
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    basically just changed it from a mechanics fight to a tank and spank

    people ask for harder content and then they do whatever they can to make it easier.... oh well to each their own
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  4. #24
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Anything that bypasses all of the mechanics of a boss is clearly an exploit to me, at least. I'd report this so they could ninja in a hotfix sooner than later.
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    Last edited by Noahlimits; 12-10-2013 at 04:02 AM.

  5. #25
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    Adamantoise
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    its not bypassing the mechanics its more like using the mechanics to gain an advantage that wasn't really intended
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  6. #26
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Until a mod says something, everything is here-say. Even if it's not an exploit, I wouldn't want to do this method until it's deemed not one from a mod or admin. I wouldn't want a 'Salvage' mass banning to go on like FFXI had. /shudder
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  7. #27
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    Simon Fletcher
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    Midgardsormr
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    Archer Lv 50
    SE has a serious problem on their hands if players are constantly nervous about trying new strategies. Having done this T2 method myself, I assure you, everything worked as intended. We had a very specific setup that included 3 healers, 2 bards, and only 1 tank. Us bards had to coordinate our ballad to make sure the healers could keep the heals flowing during the burn. I seemed to be taking plenty of damage, and if it wasn't for the 3 healers + Sacred Soil + Rain of Death (+Virus? can't remember), I don't know that it would have been survivable.

    The only way SE is going to mitigate the use of new strats like this is to lock all raid content to the 4/2/2 setup, and that would be boring. Part of the fun of raiding is finding what works for your own group and adjusting your strategies to match. There can't be just one way to do everything, or SE would quickly lose players over boredom. Utilizing zone mechanics to your advantage is smart playing, not cheating/glitching/exploiting, and that's all this strat does.
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    Last edited by CatholicFan; 12-10-2013 at 05:00 AM.

  8. #28
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    If you're winning the fight without having to deal with any of the boss moves (other than enrage AoE), do you really think it's working as intended?

    Edit: Yes you're dealing with High Voltage, Piercing Laser and Cannons for 1 minute or so...then they just stop and you won't even see any of the other moves? If any boss gets stuck into not using any moves and you only get hit by one regular AoE while everyone stands still and hit their rotations, I wouldn't call that a "strategy" but finding a way to skip the actual fight.
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    Last edited by Taika; 12-10-2013 at 05:29 AM.

  9. #29
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    Akira Ono
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    Sargatanas
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by CatholicFan View Post
    SE has a serious problem on their hands if players are constantly nervous about trying new strategies.
    I think people have a right to be really cautious when proceeding. SE has been really random when it comes to banhammers if you go off of FFXI. I think people are just worried about one mistake causing them to lose months they put into a character. In the end I don't feel it's worth it. I agree with you, I wish they would be more open and clear right away when something is okay/not okay.
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  10. #30
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    Tazo Yoshi
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    Midgardsormr
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Thank you for posting this strategy on the official SE forums.

    This is why we can't have nice things.
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