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    redmech78's Avatar
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    Beef Injection
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 50

    Macro Erroneously Heals Me at Worst Possible Moments

    So, my bf and I are both running into the same problem: our healing macros occasionally go berzerk and heal us instead of our targets. He's SCH, I'm WHM, and our spell macros are more or less the same:

    /ac "Healing Spell" <mo>
    /ac "Healing Spell" <f>
    /ac "Healing Spell" <t>
    /ac "Healing Spell" <tt>

    We do not have <me> anywhere in the macro.

    Sometimes, however, after going through the spell animation, the heal ends up hitting US instead of our intended target. This happens with mouseover on character models, nameplates, and the party list, and even when we have the intended recipient either targeted or even Focused.

    Has anybody else run into this? It seems to happen at absolutely THE worst times!

    Thanks for your help.
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    Hiro_Protagonist's Avatar
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    Hiro Protagonist
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    I personally prefer not to use macros for my healing, but I think I remember hearing that <tt> does not work for healing spells if you have selected an enemy; so, if you're targeting the boss and hit a heal it will hit you instead of the tank or whoever his target is. Someone who doesn't like to micro manage can probably confirm or deny.
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    Last edited by Hiro_Protagonist; 12-10-2013 at 03:35 AM. Reason: formatting

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    Staris's Avatar
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    Staris Fate
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    Ultros
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    its a bug with <tt>
    if your targeting a mob, it casts on you.
    If your targetting someone , and your out of range or LOS, it casts on you. (and dosnt warn you that your out of range)

    remove <tt> from healing macroes and only use it for DPS attacks instead....
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    Aphrini's Avatar
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    Aphrini Vanadette
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    Exodus
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    Conjurer Lv 80
    Omg Hiro I have not seen that FFXI Screen Shot in ages...It warmed my old nostalgic soul lol@ JP button
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    Hiro_Protagonist's Avatar
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    Hiro Protagonist
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrini View Post
    Omg Hiro I have not seen that FFXI Screen Shot in ages...It warmed my old nostalgic soul lol@ JP button
    Yeah I was trudging through an old backup looking for an image and found it. Made me smile.
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    Ampersand Kai
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Staris View Post
    its a bug with <tt>
    It's not just <tt>. It can happen with any* of the placeholders (<t>, <mo>, <square>, etc.) if what they're currently pointing to is an enemy. Macros behave just like casting the ability normally with whatever the placeholder is pointing to as a normal target. And the behavior for cure spells when you're targeting an enemy is to self-cast. So that's what macros do.

    *Except, of course, the ones that can't be enemies (<me>, <1>-<8>, <c>, <pet>, etc.).

    Basically, choose one targeting type for cures (mouseover, target-of-target, etc.) and stick with that, and just that. You'll never get fall-through logic to work consistently with these kinds of macros for healing.
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    Manwe Sulimo
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Im having this same problem :/ I use <tt> as well, so ill test it tonight.
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    Ratuni Loreseeker
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    Coeurl
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    I have a similar problem and am not using <tt> in my macros, but am using <me> at the very end of my macro.

    So I have:
    /ac "Cure" <mo>
    /ac "Cure" <t>
    /ac "Cure" "Tank Name"
    /ac "Cure" <me>

    when running dungeons I occasionally run into an area where the cure spell heals me instead of the tank, when I am moused over AND targeting him. no idea why. its frustrating for sure. My next step was to remove <me> entirely and see if it still has a problem.

    interestingly, without the tank or I moving, the next cure spell works fine.
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  9. #9
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Essentially you can't use <t> and <tt> in a healing macro. If you put <t> first, any time you try to cast with an enemy targeted the spell will heal you. If you put <tt> first, any time you try to cast with an ally targeted it will try to heal whatever they are targetting; if that's an ally the spell will heal them, but if it's an enemy the spell will heal you.
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    Kayu Boo
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Menae View Post
    Essentially you can't use <t> and <tt> in a healing macro. If you put <t> first, any time you try to cast with an enemy targeted the spell will heal you. If you put <tt> first, any time you try to cast with an ally targeted it will try to heal whatever they are targetting; if that's an ally the spell will heal them, but if it's an enemy the spell will heal you.
    I'll second that. Experimenting with <t> and <tt> always led to tears.
    What I do now is have macro set up to heal <mo> then <f>. I focus the tank I'm assigned to, keep bosses targetted, heal party by mouseover on party frames. Works as expected this way.
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