CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[Reyki]

@Fushikage
huh , are u joking ? MMO never meant to be played just 3 hours per week , u know ? don't take moba or solo RPG for mmorpg .....it's just like u get into the wrong game .
IRL don't tell me that A person wich work 1h per day because he wants to , have to be rewarded with the same amount of money of a B person wich work 6x more time than him, and that for the same job ?
evryone can play the place they want to and have to.



think before posting ,it also logical .

besides it a PVE GAME , on how point that'll disturb u if hcg plays 10x more than u and them gear himself faster than u ?

ps : everyone are paying for that game, everyone .
pps : this game was meant to seduce not only super casuals , BUT EVERYONE .

[Fushikage]

You're kidding right? This game that they created is for their BUSINESS. I am paying for what they "created" for me.

I'm pretty sure Yoshi-P wasn't hired to bring a game back from the brink of death just for business. I'm also pretty sure the people who poured hours upon hours of overtime are not sitting behind a computer until 12AM programming, editing, designing, testing, translating things in a game only expected a profit for their business. Yes, Square Enix is a company. Yes, they charge us to play their game, much like they charged us for FFXI and any of the other games in the FF Franchise, but you are surely naive to think that the game wasn't made for you.

You're paying $15 a month for the game's success right? Open your eyes to all the work they put in 2.1 and stop disrespecting the human beings dedicated to this project for you.

[Leon_Stormrage]

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Mmm you can run it for fun, you can run it to help your FC members, I can run it coil 1-5 with my current gear, we didn't downed T5 yet but all of my group have enough gear to do it. I am looking for CT as a vanity purpose and I understand the lockout.
I don't know... Maybe you don't have so many people on your FC and is not necessary help a lot of people or maybe you have a selfish static group that only worry about this 8 persons.
I will say it again, I am not defending the lockout I only understand it. And it will be with us in a week... so deal with it :S

[Djeserit]

We definitely don't want Final Fantasy XIV: ARR to turn out like WoW.

You dont want the game to last 10+ years, slowly gaining subs for the first 6-7, only losing about 30% over the next 3, and still being massively sustainable?

[Leon_Stormrage]

@Fushikage
huh , are u joking ? MMO never meant to be played just 3 hours per week , u know ? don't take moba or solo RPG for mmorpg .....it's just like u get into the wrong game .
IRL don't tell me that A person wich work 1h per day because he wants to , have to be rewarded with the same amount of money of a B person wich work 6x more time than him, and that for the same job ?

think before posting ,it also logical .

besides it a PVE GAME , on how point that'll disturb u if hcg plays 10x more than u and them gear himself faster than u ?

ps : everyone are paying for that game, everyone ...and then everyone can have and opinons , because we are equal by that .

OMG... /thread

[Fushikage]

@OPneedNerfs: Your elephant in the room is miniscule because of how long the Released game has been out. Perhaps it'd be quite a bit bigger if we're talking a year from now, but we're not, and there's a huge patch coming right around the corner.

@Reyki: There wouldn't be a story in this game if it weren't meant for people to play at their own pace. There wouldn't be solo content and quests and things for people who aren't hardcore to do if it weren't meant for casual players.

And your point about putting different amounts of time into a game and getting the same rewards? Get real, dude. Learn you some perspective before commenting. Either that or go play a hardcore MMO that doesn't give two shits about its users. I heard Blizzard is more than willing to take your money.

[Mcshiggs]

WoW is the most popular and most played MMO because it's WoW and a Blizzard game. The game got it's record subscription numbers because of it's massive following and fans for over 2 decades. We definitely don't want Final Fantasy XIV: ARR to turn out like WoW. We definitely want FFXIV:ARR to start out like WoW.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/11/...on-subscribers

Or do you really want to see FFXIV:ARR to take a nose dive in subscriptions each quarter?

I was pointing out that limiting loot is common in MMO's, like you asked someone to do, and I would be thrilled if after nearly a decade this game was supporting over 5 million subscriptions. No matter how you look at it, they did a lot of things right with WoW. Now your original post about not understanding the loot lockout for Crystal Tower, let me explain it to you. Crystal Tower and Coil were both meant to be put out side by side at release, both "raid" type encounters. Crystal Tower was and will continue to be the natural progression toward Coil, but since Tower had to be delayed, this got thrown off a bit, and confused some of the more simple minded players. With the following patches, they will alternate between Coil and Tower expansions, each time giving another tier of gear, to set you up for the next patch or expansion. Crystal Tower is meant to be the more "casual" of the two raids because of the duty finder, and not needing to set up statics to run it. Coil is the more "hardcore" of the two and better group play and communication is required, therefore no duty finder. But still BOTH are raid content, and they don't want the raid gears to be able to be farmed like dungeon content, even if it's not the current best, raid gear is still an achievement, and something they want us to work towards .

[Mook_Mook]

Who cares if it drops i80 gear instead of i90? It gives people a better transition into end game content by giving them a chance to GUARANTEE a piece of decent gear aside from Darklight each week.

Coil wasn't meant to be farmed for gear so fast, and that was specifically clear by the binding progression from Turn 1 to Turn 5 within a week period.

"So because you don't put in as much time as other people or because you aren't as efficient as other people, those other people should be forced to go at your pace?"

This thing, that just came out of your brain, through your fingers, into this forum, is the precise reason why everyone else doesn't agree with you, period. Use your head to think about other people outside of your FC before posting something so disrespectful to other people in the game and to the people that spent time, effort, blood, and energy creating for you.

This is wrong, this game was created to generate revenue, not please fans, not to be nice, but to gain money. Yoshi-P didnt make ffxiv for me. He made it and has designed in to make money for square, this is the basis of any game company is there passion to make a good game and work with the community but the game wasnt made out of SE kindness it was made out of SE saying we need to make money off of this.

[Mook_Mook]

Limiting loot is acceptable but one piece is kind of a slap in the face. two maybe three pieces a week most would probably be content I know i would be.

[Valamyr]

It would have been smart to make CT the dungeon where you can really gear up your alt classes, and leave the lockouts only on the top end gear, IMO.

People wanting to really play around the job system have little to no way to decently build up their alts.

Mind you, I just started and I'm quite far from having to deal with that; maybe the system will be improved by then.