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  1. #291
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart View Post
    You think i don't know that?problem is if people try to do that we just end up going unheard seeing as the sad thing is the idiots that like everything handed to them are the majority these days, no-one bothers to try for skill and because of that atm if this game doesn't get some more replay value for me im just gonna switch to archeage cause that game has my interest for not only being sandbox the combat looks like it will finally be what im looking for, as much as i like this game the casual pandering is turning me further and further away.
    and if you dont know what i mean just look at this thread, every-time someone put down a reason why they were opposed to this idea they basically just got the response "lol hardcore" and were ignored, that happens all the damn time so im sick of these fucking stupid ideas trying to make the game even easier than it already is, yoshi could have tried to go half and half between pleasing casuals and pleasing everyone else but nope he has to go full casual leaving only a very small endgame for everyone else and even then dumbing it down for the casual gamers
    I can't read this without hearing you cry like a baby.
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  2. #292
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMElan View Post
    I can't read this without hearing you cry like a baby.
    and you just proved my point
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  3. #293
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart View Post
    and you just proved my point
    Not really. If you haven't read my previous posts in the thread, I'm against an Easy Mode version of Coil being implemented at this point. I'm also a hardcore gamer who enjoys his challenging games from time to time. But when you make a long, rambling post like that, there's no way I can possibly read it other than as a child who had his favorite toy taken away. It's about how you're presenting yourself, not the message you're sending.
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  4. #294
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    Quote Originally Posted by FMElan View Post
    Not really. If you haven't read my previous posts in the thread, I'm against an Easy Mode version of Coil being implemented at this point. I'm also a hardcore gamer who enjoys his challenging games from time to time. But when you make a long, rambling post like that, there's no way I can possibly read it other than as a child who had his favorite toy taken away. It's about how you're presenting yourself, not the message you're sending.
    so basically you are under the tl:dr category of people in this thread, because most of my posts are long and for a reason i always give the utmost evidence and reasoning behind my posts so people cant argue a point i missed
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  5. #295
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart View Post
    so basically you are under the tl:dr category of people in this thread, because most of my posts are long and for a reason i always give the utmost evidence and reasoning behind my posts so people cant argue a point i missed
    No, it's moreso that you spent a paragraph trying to elaborate upon a point in the whiniest way possible.

    and if you dont know what i mean just look at this thread, every-time someone put down a reason why they were opposed to this idea they basically just got the response "lol hardcore" and were ignored, that happens all the damn time so im sick of these fucking stupid ideas trying to make the game even easier than it already is, yoshi could have tried to go half and half between pleasing casuals and pleasing everyone else but nope he has to go full casual leaving only a very small endgame for everyone else and even then dumbing it down for the casual gamers
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    Last edited by FMElan; 12-09-2013 at 05:20 AM.

  6. #296
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    I'm a ______ type of player; how are the developers going to change the game to cater to me?
    Whatever they do I will never be satisfied with the outcome and will demand even more changes to cater to my specific playstyle.
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  7. #297
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rose_Vilehart View Post
    and if you dont know what i mean just look at this thread, every-time someone put down a reason why they were opposed to this idea they basically just got the response "lol hardcore" and were ignored, that happens all the damn time so im sick of these fucking stupid ideas trying to make the game even easier than it already is,
    As I have been the most vocal person in this thread for the idea of a story-mode coil, I'd like to ask you to point out to me where I ignored a person arguing against it (that wasn't an obvious troll) or where I requested that the entire game be made easier?
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    Everyone thought paid retainers and fantasia would be the end of it.
    You were warned.
    Cash shop in, TrystWildkey out.

  8. #298
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    Form what im seeing here we have people against and for story mode version

    Against people are complaining that it will be too easy content wise and make coil easy to access the Coil gear when Story Mode version will not give any Raid Gear rewards from the raid version.

    People for Story Mode version want it because the story for Binding Coil is very vital part of Final Fantasy 14 A Realm Reborn storyline which covers the mysterious disappearance of Bahamut and Lousoix.

    In short people who called themselves Hardcore and are against story mode version of Binding Coil seems to only care about keeping Coil accessable to Hardcore players because the content is the only thing in the game that makes them feel "Special". They don't even have any interests in Binding Coil Storyline when they run the Coil and only in it for the loot.

    Story Mode Binding Coil is not going to be a mode that give easy access to Binding Coil gears but made to allow people to gain access to this very important part of the storyline which SE has placed into the game. Currently only Hardcore players who can run Binding Coil can acess this important part of the storyline. We are not asking for easy acces to Coil gears but a way to access this very vital part of the storyline. Also Story Mode Coil most likely will not give anything other than Gil if it is solo instanced (due to all cutscenes being made to show that you are going through coil with Alsaie alone) or tomes if group base.
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    Last edited by EdwinLi; 12-09-2013 at 05:38 AM.

  9. #299
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
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    I would be considered a "hardcore" player. I don't think it should kept accessible to only "hardcore players" I think it should only be accessible to people that TRY, since it is a optional raid, don't care how important you think the story is, SE made it an optional raid.

    My only gripe is that this game is already easy, it was made with casuals in mind. The more the "casuals" (cause the ones asking for it aren't casuals) start saying "we need nerf'd/story mode" content the more future patches and everything will just be even easier and turn into Hello kitty: A Realm Reborn.

    More and more casuals and new people to the genre are coming to mmorpgs since it's considered cool (not sure about where you guys live, but it's considered "nerd cool" here, I don't understand teens) since these people have no idea what it takes to play one, they gripe about everything being to "hard" so devs dumb everything down for a dollar or two. Leaving the real mmo players (hardcores AND casuals) with easy games where we burn through content without even trying and it's just not fun, hence the whole ruining games, like the other guy or gal was talking about. Somethings just need to be a challenge that's just the way games work. It's an optional raid, SE made it that way, that's why they aren't offering a story mode raid. It will be nerfed in due time, like how things are SUPPOSE to be.

    But then again, maybe us "hardcore" players (lol that title cracks me up) should just migrate to a more challenging game and leave this to the "casuals" not every game is for everyone.
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    Last edited by Faedden; 12-09-2013 at 06:38 AM.

  10. #300
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faedden View Post
    *agreed*
    ^this also if this does happen i already have my archeage beta key ready and waiting
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