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  1. #11
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    Airikay's Avatar
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    Ineb Yakiria
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    Diabolos
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    Succor? rofl

    Anyway how bout stoneskin has aoe range of cure III
    Medica 2 is better than Succor. Making an aoe stoneskin really would make WHM OP and mess with the harmony that's between WHM and SCH. There is no need for any buffs really since all content can be cleared with 2 WHM anyways. As a WHM main, I dont understand why the heal forum is full of WHM crying for buffs. The only thing I can see being reworked is cure 3 for a little extra range, but nothing else should be touched.
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  2. #12
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    Bunny Boo
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Medica 2 is not better then succor .
    Succor does things that medica 2 can't .Shields damage.
    Shielding mechanics are so OP in this game.
    I would trade succor for medica 2 now. Divine seal succor .

    Medica2 cast time is 3 seconds
    Medica is 2.5 seconds.

    Medica2 advantage is HP per mana(if left to tick) and Range. Though alot of the healing does overheal and is pointless enmity. For HPS medica spam is better?

    When i was a noob who didn't do hard content i thought what you did too. But now that i have actually twintania. I see how sch is better designed for current fights then whm is. Also the hotfix changed sch alot and made them spot heal king.

    Basically SE have designed fight with oneshot twoshot aoe/single target mechanics. Which favors shielding and get hp up ASAP rather then healing over time.

    Extreme primals look more of the same. Shielding and healing asap favored.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-08-2013 at 09:00 AM.

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  4. #13
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Yes yes and yes. Especially because people doesn't actually have the patience to stand there and wait for pre-buffs. Damn, it's already hard making people wait for Protect <.<
    Quote Originally Posted by MirajaneStrauss View Post
    Stoneskin is meant to used during battles, more so than pre-buffing. Making it AOE would simply be OP.
    Then make it a trait, where it's only AOE when used outside battle. Problem solved.
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  5. #14
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    Hidden Dragon
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    and healing asap favored.
    and there's your niche... one healer can't have everything
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  6. #15
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    Peanut Little
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    No, just no. Maybe in the future when they increase the difficulty of content to adjust for giving players new abilities than maybe. Even then, I want it to be a strategic buff rather than just something you can spam. As it currently stands though, no.
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  7. #16
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by sharazisspecial View Post
    When i was a noob who didn't do hard content i thought what you did too. But now that i have actually twintania. I see how sch is better designed for current fights then whm is. Also the hotfix changed sch alot and made them spot heal king.
    I still believe WHM+SCH is the best combination for most fights in the game including Twintania. Although in this case, if it really came to it, 2xSCH would be a lot better than 2xWHM for this particular fight.

    As far as solo healing goes it depends on the fight for me. For instance Garuda I prefer WHM but Titan SCH is easier to solo heal.

    I can solo heal Titan on WHM no problem, but it just seems a lot more hectic and occasionally I'll need ballad if there's people taking unnecessary damage. With SCH the fairy can just sit and top people's HP off rather than having to do it manually on WHM.
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  8. #17
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    Kyomi Dreamweaver
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    I think an out of combat only AoE Stoneskin wouldn't be a problem.
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  9. #18
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    Deifact Kinspawn
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    Just bring back sacred prism, and put it on a timer that is balanced (maybe 3 mins recast?) seriously sacred prism was so useful in 1.0 for AoE Esuna or AoE cures
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  10. #19
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    Lyndzei Aldercy
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    Ragnarok
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Sacred Prism will be back, as a PvP skill though... ^^

    Anyways, I agree that a trait or something for Stoneskin to be AoE only outside of battle would be a nice addition.
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  11. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by hamsteak View Post
    and there's your niche... one healer can't have everything
    Sch have a spell called LUSTRATE. Instant off gcd heal that can quickly heal a target before incoming damage.

    Whm don't got any base abilties close to that when it comes to life saving heal asap!! We have benediction with its 6 minute cooldown and Swiftcast medica 2 or cure 2.
    Whm would be alot useful healer if hardest content was 24 man instead of 8 man.
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    Last edited by sharazisspecial; 12-10-2013 at 06:17 AM.

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