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    Quote Originally Posted by lordkabal26 View Post
    Oh I know it takes time, but that time is typically doled out by RNG not by ridiculous lockouts, stop defending a bad call on the part of the devs
    Wonder why RNG is not part of the Game anymore like it was in 1.0.. Maybe because of the hilarious amount of the complain/QQ-threads and how people wanted lockouts rather than low RNG?... Not that i am surprised that people now want it the other way around. Armchair Devs and how they believe, how Games have to be actually designed.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    There's a reason they had to implement Duty Roulette, because no one does content they don't need. Crystal Tower will be the same way, get your loot of the week and never run it again.
    Source to that claim?

    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    Most people don't do things unless there's a reward attached to it, welcome to life.
    That may goes for you, i play Games for fun and i do not need rewards to have fun. Welcome to real life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Source to that claim?
    How about all the threads that are full of people complaining about hour long queues for things like Ifrit/Garuda story mode?
    That may goes for you, i play Games for fun and i do not need rewards to have fun. Welcome to real life.
    You are genuinely an anomaly, most people are generally it for themselves. Tell me, honestly... how often do you run Storyline content outside of if friends ask for your help?
    You don't need rewards to have fun. This is a very true point, I spend my entire Tuesday-Sunday in this game helping random shouts do things like Chim/Hydra/Primals... Do I have fun? For a time, however, there comes a point where you've done the same content so much that it stops being fun. When you get to that point, the only thing left to keep you going is the reward, and no, that point isn't exclusive to me. It's a biological fact that people get bored when doing the same thing over again, the only difference is it takes some people longer to get to that point than others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    How about all the threads that are full of people complaining about hour long queues for things like Ifrit/Garuda story mode?
    1.0 Forum was used by 3% of the Playerbase, unless it magically increased ( its around 5% for most Games actually ) or SE gives us a new Number, i will somewhat assume it is a similiar amount for the 2.0 Forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    You are genuinely an anomaly, most people are generally it for themselves. Tell me, honestly... how often do you run Storyline content outside of if friends ask for your help?
    Last time i did Story Titan, which was last week with some french people just for fun. I do it if feel like it and be like "oh.. i did not do that in a while, could be fun". And yeah.. it was fun. I am not saying that other people don't have other goals or don't play for different reasons, but i can only speak for myself and those people i know. And so i can say i am not alone with the way i play. Just now a couple groups in my FC doing WP for fun, their tomes are capped, they just like to mess around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    1.0 Forum was used by 3% of the Playerbase, unless it magically increased ( its around 5% for most Games actually ) or SE gives us a new Number, i will somewhat assume it is a similiar amount for the 2.0 Forums.
    Okay, stick your head in the sand. Go ahead and DF for one of the story primals and tell me how long it takes you to find a group on your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmSix View Post
    Okay, stick your head in the sand. Go ahead and DF for one of the story primals and tell me how long it takes you to find a group on your own.
    41 Seconds for Garuda Storymode.. <_< and now? I'm on Tank so it will go fast regardless, but i also do wait 30 Minutes+ if i queue up for DD on AK or WP, so how does this prove anything?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    41 Seconds for Garuda Storymode.. <_< and now? I'm on Tank so it will go fast regardless, but i also do wait 30 Minutes+ if i queue up for DD on AK or WP, so how does this prove anything?
    I could just as easily say you're in the 3% of people that managed to get in quickly or something.
    The fact stands there tends to be incredibly long queue times for a lot of things because there simply is not enough people doing them. Why? Because it offers no reward for them to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    41 Seconds for Garuda Storymode.. <_< and now? I'm on Tank so it will go fast regardless, but i also do wait 30 Minutes+ if i queue up for DD on AK or WP, so how does this prove anything?
    Try that again with Cape Westwind...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    Try that again with Cape Westwind...
    5 of 5 tank queue Cape Westwinds were instant for me. 1 of 1 DD queues... 28 minutes.

    Average WP queue time as DD is around 30 minutes for me, and it's about 10-20 minutes more for AK. I have yet to have a non-instant queue time queuing for either alone as tank, though it may take a couple minutes with dps along for the quick queue. That seems to be pretty standard for the other tanks I've spoken to...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Wonder why RNG is not part of the Game anymore like it was in 1.0.. Maybe because of the hilarious amount of the complain/QQ-threads and how people wanted lockouts rather than low RNG?... Not that i am surprised that people now want it the other way around. Armchair Devs and how they believe, how Games have to be actually designed.
    See I didn't play 1.0 because I didn't have the money for it at the time, if I had, I personally wouldn't have minded RNG because it's a mechanic I'm used to from my time spent playing SWG (freaking Sith 4/5 waistpack holocron RNG for master jedi cloak was the bane of my existence for years) and yet I still prefer RNG to week long lockouts.
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