To all those ANTI loot lockout people I say this.

[Freakiie]

Because many of those players will come to the forums and whine potentially causing sqenix to make it an even easier loot pinata.
Suck it up and deal. Back in the good ole days you were lucky to get more than one piece of tier gear per week.
These are the same players who just stand around in cities all day waiting for LFG to pop. Might as well be a lobby game at that point. I don't want to see this game go in that direction even if it means these players quit.

Yes, because there's no whining on the forum right now. Got ya!

[Axidrain]

Yes, because there's no whining on the forum right now. Got ya!

i could use with less whine threads.

[Seig345]

Yes, because there's no whining on the forum right now. Got ya!

Which means they should spend the extra time/work/money just to change what people are whining about on the forums. I copy.

[Doo]

i could use with less whine threads.

So whining about whiners doesn't that contribute more to the problem? Or do you somehow think your whine will stop others whine or even reduce it?

Such an evil forum cycle.

[KaiserFire]

I read an article about f2p vs subs that said people will spam a game (even take off work) for the first month of its life until all content is exhausted and then move on to another game if there's nothing left to keep them busy.

I think that concept captures the attitude we see here with players rushing to the end as fast as possible, skipping anything that doesn't help them get to that endpoint, and then complaining that there isn't more to put them ahead of everyone else.

To a person with this mindset, I can see how lockouts would be frustrating. The developers seek to directly counter players who want to burn all the content as quickly as possible.

So why would they do this? IMO, they must see this kind of activity as harmful to their game in a meta sense: that it does damage to the community at large and not just to the small minority of players who perpetrate this activity. Otherwise, if it affected only a small amount of players, they wouldn't bother.

[Freakiie]

Which means they should spend the extra time/work/money just to change what people are whining about on the forums. I copy.

Because people won't always find something to whine about.

[Melithea]

The CT loot lockout basically destroys Crystal Tower as a content fixture. By week 3 of patch 2.1 I'm going to be back to farming Wanderer's Palace for myth and philo tomes. How exciting!

[Axidrain]

So whining about whiners doesn't that contribute more to the problem? Or do you somehow think your whine will stop others whine or even reduce it?

Such an evil forum cycle.

oh boy. okay ill just make it simple for u. im just saying that removing lockouts will do nothing to solve this problem. if anything it'll probably make things worse. or we could always make some noise and have SE switch the lockouts with a % drop from bosses eh? go at it old school

[Thunderz]

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i'd prefer that over the current system

[Seig345]

Because people won't always find something to whine about.

Not the point. One method there's whining, the other method costs more money due to wasted man hours, and there's whining. Why bother throwing away money and wasting time?