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  1. #31
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    Terius's Avatar
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    You'll still want one of each, you know, how it should have been.

    /shocker
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  2. #32
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    AngelMoon's Avatar
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    Foxxy Hills
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Lol... War buffs will still not > PLD already skilled buffs. Goodluck.
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  3. #33
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    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I'm not gonna be switching my main to WAR because PLD is easier and I'm a slacker. :3

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamemako View Post
    You'll have to explain how you've come to that conclusion. Here are the proposed changes. The only change which concerns DPS directly is Unchained.
    I like the TP changes. While I've only have WAR alt up to Lv.40, I've noticed I run out of TP much more often than PLD. (And when I provided that feedback in beta, I got replies like WAR is fine L2P etc orz).

    But yes the key change is uncoupling damage reduction from wrath. Reliability is a very important aspect of a tank for progression content, and WAR was in a very disadvantaged position.

    I'm thoroughly enjoying my Lv.40 WAR and planning to level WAR up on my main character. Best of both worlds.
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    Last edited by Zfz; 12-07-2013 at 07:10 AM.
    “There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.”
    ― Ernest Hemingway

  4. #34
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    Requiiem's Avatar
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    Requiem Aeternam
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    makes me glad I capped WAR months back xD
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  5. #35
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    joshdavis271's Avatar
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    Josh Davis
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    Hyperion
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    Paladin Lv 80
    My prediction is when the patch hits, is that us plds will see less partys for a couple months, so get used to sitting in mor dhona more often or used DF, in DF PLDs are prolly going to be OTs which I don't agree with cause WARs are much better at picking up Enmity faster then plds, The warrior's strengh lies in the fact that they have abilities to pick up multiple targets at once an hold them, we technically have 1 aoe ability that holds enmity. The fact is, the war an pld are supposed to compliment each other much like SCH and WHMs compliment each other, The buffs to wars will help them do the job much better.
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  6. #36
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    AngelMoon's Avatar
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    Goblin
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by joshdavis271 View Post
    My prediction is when the patch hits, is that us plds will see less partys for a couple months, so get used to sitting in mor dhona more often or used DF, in DF PLDs are prolly going to be OTs which I don't agree with cause WARs are much better at picking up Enmity faster then plds, The warrior's strengh lies in the fact that they have abilities to pick up multiple targets at once an hold them, we technically have 1 aoe ability that holds enmity. The fact is, the war an pld are supposed to compliment each other much like SCH and WHMs compliment each other, The buffs to wars will help them do the job much better.
    You clearly don't know how PLD buffs are still > WAR after update...If you have a hard time keeping hate on more than one mob it isn't PLD job.. it's you.
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    Last edited by AngelMoon; 12-07-2013 at 08:44 AM.

  7. #37
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    Terius's Avatar
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    Terius Palemoon
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by joshdavis271 View Post
    My prediction is when the patch hits, is that us plds will see less partys for a couple months, so get used to sitting in mor dhona more often or used DF, in DF PLDs are prolly going to be OTs which I don't agree with cause WARs are much better at picking up Enmity faster then plds, The warrior's strengh lies in the fact that they have abilities to pick up multiple targets at once an hold them, we technically have 1 aoe ability that holds enmity. The fact is, the war an pld are supposed to compliment each other much like SCH and WHMs compliment each other, The buffs to wars will help them do the job much better.
    Yea, nobody is going to be 'LF Tank!' and not care which one at all, huh.

    FC's are not going to start forcing PLD's to reroll or boot them, they will still be great.
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  8. #38
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    I believe everyone is missing out on the biggest thing involved with this tank debacle.

    It doesn't matter how good they buff WAR if it's being controlled by someone who can't use it to its full potential. A good PLD will always be superior to an average WAR much in the same way a good WAR will always be superior to an average PLD.

    You can argue which job has greater potential, but it's only in the proper hands that either job shines.
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  9. #39
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    Ladon's Avatar
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    Resa Nome
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    I'm considering it. At least I can just re-use all of my Allagan.

    Going to actually have to learn how to play one though since not sure I can play a Warrior 1 handed like I currently do on my Paladin.
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  10. #40
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    DarkStaoneDragon's Avatar
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    Dark Drakon
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    War has a downfall in tanking, if the War runs out of TP (and it does happen alot) you can kiss the healer goodbye (seen it in person), I have a Mrd and as far as Pld they can help keep hate by using flash, unless you lvl Gld (of which I didn't my Wife did) Mrd has no way to keep hate once TP runs out (untill you lvl Gld for War).
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