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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    You can make an argument that while you're occupied with the troll tank for 2-3 seconds, you might've missed a legitimate tank queueing up, but since every time he (the troll tank) drops queue he also drops his position in queue, that's highly unlikely.
    It's possible say if you're healer #1 in position, while troll tank is queueing, a legitmate tank queues immediately after and thus healer #2 gets a group while you do not. However it is also equally likely that you got a group for being in the healer #2 position while the healer #1 position guy missed it. At any rate, legitmate tanks clearly don't show up very often simply by looking at queue time for nontanks, so the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.
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    Elim Lovecraft
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astarica View Post
    so the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.

    And how exactly do you know that? Do you have numbers to show? I could say it happens all the time and have the same amount of legitimacy as you do, since I don't have anything tangible to back it up.

    I think punishment for wasting other peoples time when you withdraw from something you signed up for is totally acceptable. In fact they already do that in FF14; if you're the first person to ditch a group you get a lockout.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim View Post
    And how exactly do you know that? Do you have numbers to show? I could say it happens all the time and have the same amount of legitimacy as you do, since I don't have anything tangible to back it up.

    I think punishment for wasting other peoples time when you withdraw from something you signed up for is totally acceptable. In fact they already do that in FF14; if you're the first person to ditch a group you get a lockout.
    Because that's how queues work, or do you for some reason assume if your tank drops queue your queue resets?

    You might have a point if you had to go through your average wait time in queue all over again every time someone dropped. Do you? I know my average wait time is 20-30 minutes (SOMETIMES ever so slightly longer) regardless of troll tank queue drops.

    This is how queues function in WoW, in LoL, in DOTA, every online FPS ever, in COUNTLESS games with queue systems - so what evidence do you have to suggest the queue functions differently in FFXIV especially when it appears to behave exactly the same?

    How can he be wasting your time when it doesn't affect your position in the queue at all?
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    Last edited by Borfin; 12-07-2013 at 07:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    need to shorten post cus of character limit so i snipped this
    Did....did you read his post?

    It's possible say if you're healer #1 in position, while troll tank is queueing, a legitmate tank queues immediately after and thus healer #2 gets a group while you do not.
    He finished that post by stating:

    the likelihood of either event happening is minuscule to begin with.
    How does he know the likelihood is low? I don't see a chart or numbers. It's possible there's a healer #1 getting screwed hourly by a tank withdrawing. And no, "because I heard it does and say so" isn't enough for me.
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    Last edited by Elim; 12-07-2013 at 05:59 AM.