CT loot lockout and the direction of this game will probably cause our FC to quit

[Vahlnir]

The weekly lockout with Coil is bad already, but a loot lock out for CT? The drops in CT aren't even the best so why the lockout?

This game is heading in a direction that many of us feared it might... full of limitations.

So people wanted content that lasts...they give the players CT to keep most coming back for x amount of weeks. You are guaranteed 1 drop per week if you are persistent enough. Gear progression isn't a limitation...it's, well, progression. Meant to take time like many things in the majority of MMOs. Vanity gear is also great if you like the looks and is a different type of gear progression in a sense. If not then this patch or game for that matter might not be your cup of tea if you are already unhappy with the Coil grind which is much less forgiving (so I've heard.)

[Sindele]

Unfortunately, Tower offers very little substantial to progression. A number of people in my FC have already stated they're likely just going to log in for Myth stones and Coil and skip on Tower entirely with the lockout in place. Anecdotal, sure, but these are the people I do content with - and they're not interested in doing it more than once because it offers only a tiny, unreliable trickle of gear they don't really need for progression, and has the potential to be far more aggravating than that one piece of gear is worth.

Remember that crafted gear becomes cheaper come 2.1 as well, and with how the materia system works, several pieces are directly competitive with theoretical Tower gear.

[Vmage]

So people wanted content that lasts...

people wanted content they could play more than once per week and content that lasts

ideally all forms of content fit both of those categories.

currently all ffxiv content falls into one of those categories at most, with a lot of content falling into neither.

[neoreturn]

people wanted content they could play more than once per week and content that lasts

ideally all forms of content fit both of those categories.

currently all ffxiv content falls into one of those categories at most, with a lot of content falling into neither.

I can guarantee you want to play more than once per week on CT since the gear you want will not easy to drop with time.
For example you may want to gear up your tank with full 80. First after 2 run, you may get one piece, second week you may need do 3 run to get the piece you want, more gear you get , less chance you will get the one you real need.

[Zoomie]

First after 2 run, you may get one piece, second week you may need do 3 run to get the piece you want, more gear you get , less chance you will get the one you real need.

I really don't understand why people are upset over the lockout unless these are all people wanting to get i80 the first week that CT is out so they can go stomp turn 5 the week after THEN complain that the game doesn't have enough content.

[Yuichi]

I really don't understand why people are upset over the lockout unless these are all people wanting to get i80 the first week that CT is out so they can go stomp turn 5 the week after THEN complain that the game doesn't have enough content.

That is pretty much what they want to do.

[EmSix]

I really don't understand why people are upset over the lockout unless these are all people wanting to get i80 the first week that CT is out so they can go stomp turn 5 the week after THEN complain that the game doesn't have enough content.

That is pretty much what they want to do.

You both realise that's exactly what CT was advertised as right?
A catchup raid to quickly allow players who previously couldn't do Coil to get gear to make doing Coil easier.

[Yuichi]

You both realise that's exactly what CT was advertised as right?
A catchup raid to quickly allow players who previously couldn't do Coil to get gear to make doing Coil easier.

Right but what these people want is no lockouts so they can spam it, get all the gear in a day, then spam coil next day get all the gear, then complain there is nothing to do.

[Zoomie]

You both realise that's exactly what CT was advertised as right?

Where specifically was this advertised in this way? A "please come here for a full gear set in a week so you can stomp coil tomorrow raid"

A catchup raid to quickly allow players who previously couldn't do Coil to get gear to make doing Coil easier.

Something that CT will be even if its limited to one item per week period, even without one item per week per job. The point is this is another place to get gear that will allow players and easier time through coil. All those players in full DL struggling with turn 4 will suddenly be players in full DL + 1 i80 item next week, then +2 i80's next week, and so on.

There is no "catch up" to be done at this point as coil is the end! Its not like all those turn 5 farming FC's are moving on the bigger and better things. Allowing players to RUSH to end-game is only going to anger the population when they run out of content because its easier to complete faster than SE could possibly come up with more.

[Arkista]

I really don't understand why people are upset over the lockout unless these are all people wanting to get i80 the first week that CT is out so they can go stomp turn 5 the week after THEN complain that the game doesn't have enough content.

I'm 9/11 pieces of ilvl90 and I don't want a lockout. Its not like I'm going to run CT to get full ilvl80 just to wear it to T5. Also we don't even have CT and there is no content to do once you've done it. It doesn't matter lockouts or not Someone is going to be able to play more than others and there for be able to do more stuff.

Tomes are the only thing you play for? That's depressing.

Pretty much you have anything else better to do? A lot of us log in a few times a week do CoB, cap Myth in AK/WP which takes maybe 4-6hrs total (including queue time) and log out. With lockouts SE doesn't allow us to take full advantage of the Armoury System, So unless you want to level a new Character then its pointless to have more than a few jobs level 50.

All this nonsense aside Lockouts are hurting the Casual Player more than it is helping them. The more they fall behind each week the further the are from the "Hardcore" players.

I'll go look it up but I believe Yoshi said that CT was meant to help Casual Players bridge the gap between them and the hardcore players so they could do CT.