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    MasamuneBranford's Avatar
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    Masamune Branford
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ri_ri View Post
    You just don't want other people having the same stuff like you.

    The typical "snowflake syndrome".
    No - I want to create incentive so that there is a purpose to attempt old challenges again for those who weren't able to experience them the first time. It's an easy solution and it wouldn't bring anything but benefit.
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    They already said they adding the echo buff. Currently the way the echo buff works the more you wipe the stronger the buff becomes you get to your hp/damage ect. When they nerf coil with this you could just leave and re enter if you wipe enough times you start getting the stacking echo buff if you don't want to use it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    They already said they adding the echo buff. Currently the way the echo buff works the more you wipe the stronger the buff becomes you get to your hp/damage ect. When they nerf coil with this you could just leave and re enter if you wipe enough times you start getting the stacking echo buff if you don't want to use it.
    I agree - that's an option. But then you need 7 other people willing to do that. I agree - keep the buff. But make some sort of system to turn it off and cap you at the item cap / level cap upon initial release to earn an achievement and/or item. That type of incentive is needed to get people to want to complete the challenge.
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    Rijda Highstaff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    And you can turn the echo off if you wish I believe.
    To be fair, no progression- or loot-minded FC is ever going to do this. (I tried for YEARS to get people to "turn off the nerfs" in WoW heroic raiding.)

    And this isn't a new thing, especially with attunement gating. Leaving the difficulty as it was prevents people from getting to current content and serves no other real useful purpose. You saw it in vanilla WoW, you saw it in BC - having to get a new replacement in your main raid team geared by first running Karazhan over and over, then SSC/TK over and over and then BT/Hyjal over and over before you could FINALLY introduce him to your raid team that was progressing through Sunwell that desperately needed that class.

    It's better design this way. It's better for alts, it's better for FC recruitment and the nerfs won't happen until the content is old and outdated.

    Do you really want your new SCH who's replacing the SCH you've had for ~6 months getting stuck on HM Titan because DF before you can get him into Coil turn 9 or whatever? (as an example)
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    Last edited by Borfin; 12-06-2013 at 10:08 AM.

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