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    Lol, I'm pretty sure that Wolves' Den counts as PvP. I mean it's Players...fighting...yep, you guessed it - other Players.

    Actually I'm quite looking forward to it. I hear it's going to have 30 Ranks to go up in, and also special abilities that are purchased with PvP Points.

    Now the only question is whether or not it'll have a tournament system and/or seasons.
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    I think that no one bought this game for PVP but if they are going to add PVP they should do it properly. You cant argument that we have no right to criticise it because this is PVE game. This game has serious problems which will probably ruin PVP? Fine, dont add it to game then.

    In my opinion No PVP >>> Poorly working PVP, but yeah, maybe they will surprise me and in Wolves Den there will be no animation, delay etc. issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I think that no one bought this game for PVP but if they are going to add PVP they should do it properly. You cant argument that we have no right to criticise it because this is PVE game. This game has serious problems which will probably ruin PVP? Fine, dont add it to game then.

    In my opinion No PVP >>> Poorly working PVP, but yeah, maybe they will surprise me and in Wolves Den there will be no animation, delay etc. issues.
    Personally speaking, any game that works on a gear treadmill absolutely must have PvP. Otherwise, what's the gear used for? Making all of the content you already cleared easier?
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    Quote Originally Posted by StrejdaTom View Post
    I think that no one bought this game for PVP but if they are going to add PVP they should do it properly. You cant argument that we have no right to criticise it because this is PVE game. This game has serious problems which will probably ruin PVP? Fine, dont add it to game then.

    In my opinion No PVP >>> Poorly working PVP, but yeah, maybe they will surprise me and in Wolves Den there will be no animation, delay etc. issues.
    I did... I bought this game on good faith that it will top ballista and keep me playing just like ffxi did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi_Draven View Post
    Lol, I'm pretty sure that Wolves' Den counts as PvP. I mean it's Players...fighting...yep, you guessed it - other Players.

    Actually I'm quite looking forward to it. I hear it's going to have 30 Ranks to go up in, and also special abilities that are purchased with PvP Points.

    Now the only question is whether or not it'll have a tournament system and/or seasons.
    There are actually other, way more critical questions regarding PvP in ARR, like how will the inherently "laggy" client-server system translate to manic PvP button mashing?

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    He spammed Foresight after using Flash but didn't get the buff. The Foresight animation went off, the CD was triggered but no Foresight buff. How is this going to translate to manic PvP button mashing? My guess is there is going to be a lot of frustration and rage, especially on long, important CDs like Hallowed Ground.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonlinear314 View Post
    There are actually other, way more critical questions regarding PvP in ARR, like how will the inherently "laggy" client-server system translate to manic PvP button mashing?

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    He spammed Foresight after using Flash but didn't get the buff. The Foresight animation went off, the CD was triggered but no Foresight buff. How is this going to translate to manic PvP button mashing? My guess is there is going to be a lot of frustration and rage, especially on long, important CDs like Hallowed Ground.
    Yeah I know that's a big problem. SE has said that in 2.1, certain areas such as Raids and Wolves' Den battles will be optimized and have increased performance as far as latency goes. Not sure if it'll be a good enough solution, but we'll just have to wait and see. I'm just happy they actually acknowledged it's a problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malachi_Draven View Post
    Now the only question is whether or not it'll have a tournament system and/or seasons.
    SEASON 1, GRAND TOURNAMENT, FINAL STANDINGS:

    Rank 1: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
    Rank 2: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
    Rank 3: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.

    Runner ups: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarMarmot View Post
    SEASON 1, GRAND TOURNAMENT, FINAL STANDINGS:

    Rank 1: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
    Rank 2: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
    Rank 3: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.

    Runner ups: Fresh meat, Fresh meat, Fresh meat and Fresh meat.
    I wonder how that is going to work with the frontlines. Can't call people out by class cause there will be multiples of the same class.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Faedden View Post
    I wonder how that is going to work with the frontlines. Can't call people out by class cause there will be multiples of the same class.
    We're not supposed to call people out to begin with. That's offensive. When feelings are at stake, you must be very mindful. We simply have to do the best we can, keep our chin up and fight with honor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StarMarmot View Post
    We're not supposed to call people out to begin with. That's offensive. When feelings are at stake, you must be very mindful. We simply have to do the best we can, keep our chin up and fight with honor.
    He isn't talking about calling people out to be rude or offensive, he means to be tactical by focusing on a player or troublesome classes/jobs.
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