PvP in ff14

[Nonlinear314]

And ever notice the delay between the cast bar filling, the animation going off and the spell actually damaging stuff?

This will be really neat in PvP if there are line of sight obstacles like doors, pillars, etc.

e.g. a whm can stand behind a pillar or next to a doorway, out of LoS, start casting holy and then in the half second or so between the animation going off and the spell hitting run into a crowd of enemies and hit them with it. Any non-target AOE can be used this way: Holy, Blizzard II, Medica, Succor, etc.

e.g. cast a spell and at end of cast move, wherever you are when the animation is done is where the attack occurs, it doesn't matter where you were standing when you actually cast the spell.

Try it. Cast Holy, Blizzard II, etc. When the cast is *just* about to end, run to a different spot while the animation is going off. Wherever you end up is where the spell goes off. So a group of people can stand behind a pillar or next to a door, all start casting and then run into the enemies (through the door, from behind the column) and hit them with spells in the time between the cast bar filling and the animation ending.

[FinagleABagel]

e.g. a whm can stand behind a pillar or next to a doorway, out of LoS, start casting holy and then in the half second or so between the animation going off and the spell hitting run into a crowd of enemies and hit them with it. Any non-target AOE can be used this way: Holy, Blizzard II, Medica, Succor, etc.

Do you even read what you type? You can't slide cast that hard in this game due to server side process. Yes, you can get the ANIMATION phased significantly. Yet the actual damage radius will be behind you. I like slidecasting my BLM Blizzard II, but you can't significantly move the AoE location.

You make it sound like you can run darn near across a room while slidecasting an AoE. Ummm, no.

[Nonlinear314]

Do you even read what you type? You can't slide cast that hard in this game due to server side process. Yes, you can get the ANIMATION phased significantly. Yet the actual damage radius will be behind you. I like slidecasting my BLM Blizzard II, but you can't significantly move the AoE location.

You make it sound like you can run darn near across a room while slidecasting an AoE. Ummm, no.

Yes, I do. You don't have to go across a room, two steps into a doorway or behind a column will suffice. The point is that it can be done, i.e. you can cast a spell behind an obstacle to avoid LoS while casting self targeted aoe.

[FinagleABagel]

Yes, I do. You don't have to go across a room, two steps into a doorway or behind a column will suffice. The point is that it can be done, i.e. you can cast a spell behind an obstacle to avoid LoS while casting self targeted aoe.

How about we use a realistic scenario?

No PvP'er with any self respect would ever position him/herself in a spot where the only option is to take damage. Seriously, do you think standing out of LoS around a corner/pillar within casting range is a good idea when you have no way of initiating?

[Wyvernheart]

How about we use a realistic scenario?

No PvP'er with any self respect would ever position him/herself in a spot where the only option is to take damage. Seriously, do you think standing out of LoS around a corner/pillar within casting range is a good idea when you have no way of initiating?

Well said! You can't be a p PvP player if you think people not going to be in your face fast. And if we see Simone casting something like that you can move away/silence/stun. It might work once but not on the aware player. I just want my name and that full zone for PvP that "large scale" (castle takingk?) Is bringing.

Wouldn't mind seeing ballista return.

[Dale]

Wouldn't mind seeing ballista return.

Ballista was fun. I've played all kinds of PvP games from WoW, Aion, SWTOR, Guild Wars2 ect. and I had more fun in ballista than in any of those games I mention.

As a Black Mage though, I don't think I will like PvP on this game. My good spells have lengthy cast times and all anyone would have to do is run circles around me while beating me into a pulp since LoS is so finicky on this game. Sounds about as much fun as going to the dentist. So unless they get rid of LoS think I'll pass on PvP.

[Divinemight]

As a Black Mage though, I don't think I will like PvP on this game. My good spells have lengthy cast times and all anyone would have to do is run circles around me while beating me into a pulp since LoS is so finicky on this game. Sounds about as much fun as going to the dentist. So unless they get rid of LoS think I'll pass on PvP.

This is a team battle. The idea is the co-operation between jobs. If you have a Bard shadowbind your target, you will have no problem landing your spell. You also can sleep your target before starting your nuke.

Currently, there is a good example of design failure that gives every single class/spec CC ability. WoW is currently having issue with too many instant CCs