Why so much animosity toward Dragoons?

[Versiroth]

Just curious. I chose to play a Dragoon because I enjoy Melee DPS and after leveling both Dragoon and Monk for a few levels (I actually started with the Monk), I chose to stick with the Dragoon. But, a lot of people seem to like to make snide comments about the class and I'm just curious as to why? It's not like we're even over powered or FoTM. I play a Dragoon because I think it's fun and I love how iconic it feels playing the class.

Do most Dragoon's you encounter just suck at life or what?

[Toranja]

You guys get all the loot in Coil. That and it's always the dragoon that dies first...

But I really don't have anything against Dragoons.

[Daenerys_Sedai]

maybe it's left over from FFXI days where peopled loled if you were leveling as Dragoon (I stopped playing sometime between CoP and Treasures)?

[Versiroth]

The Coil thing really isn't the Dragoon's fault and the death thing... well, we have the worse magical defense in the game and most AOEs are magic based, are they not? That leads to a lot of one shot kills. Especially when the player is having issues with the server showing that they're in AOEs that they can't see...

[Shadow_Novus]

Some of the most badass people in my Free Company are Dragoons.

That said, whenever I party with randoms 9 times out of 10 the Dragoon is an idiot. I don't know why, but I so often run into such bad Dragoon players who can never grasp the concept of "don't stand in stupid" xD

[Yurikitty]

1. Its left over from my loldrg days on FFXI.
2. 90% of coil drops are for said loldrg.
3. Did AK last night in pug, drg had 5 peices of darklight and couldn't dps his way out of a box, sadly this seems typical of most drg's I have played with.
4. Drg's seem to have a intimate relationship with the floors in any dungeon or raid.

I want to add that I play with 3 very good drg's in my FC. The hate you speak of only applies to about 75% of the drg community.

[Lunavi]

You are most certainly not FotM... That is the problem, Dragoon is that one melee you have to have in party for LB3 if you can not get a Monk. Every class is considered better than DRG atm. The problem grows stronger because alot of newbies pick that class as they like being knights in shining armours but being a tank is too much of a responsibility. These two facts combins to that DRGs are shunned down upon.

Personally though, I do not dislike Dragoons. I know some really great Dragoons. All DPS classes are totally viable right now (it looks bleach for BLM though after 2.1 with melee buff) some are better than others, but there is no reason to totally dismiss one DPS class.

[Versiroth]

You are most certainly not FotM... That is the problem, Dragoon is that one melee you have to have in party for LB3 if you can not get a Monk. Every class is considered better than DRG atm. The problem grows stronger because alot of newbies pick that class as they like being knights in shining armours but being a tank is too much of a responsibility. These two facts combins to that DRGs are shunned down upon.

Personally though, I do not dislike Dragoons. I know some really great Dragoons. All DPS classes are totally viable right now (it looks bleach for BLM though after 2.1 with melee buff) some are better than others, but there is no reason to totally dismiss one DPS class.

I'm not up to the point were I'm rolling through coil, but are Dragoon's really that far below other DPS classes? I know we're last right now, but is the margin huge?

[JagerForrester]

I would hypothesize some ppl are from the early days of FFXI, where DRG had a really big nerf and was forever labeled lolDRG. The label still exists, regardless of how much better the class is compared to the big updates we got in FFXI and the new build here on FFXIV. Some don't know the origin, but they call them lolDRGs anyway because someone else called them that, thus the bullying continues.

Others may have played the job and hate the rotation or the constant moving around, or parties wish the DPS slots would have BRDs or BLMs only, mainly something that is still high damage output that don't need much healing.

To Toranja: Not all dragoons die first. That's what Elusive Jump and self-control is for. I constantly die after the tank and/or the WHM.

[Ruethryl]

The team I run with has myself and another DRG and we've both been through T5 just fine so I say meh to the naysayers.

I'd say we have to work a bit harder to be good, but we're perfectly viable (I do T1 - 4 on BRD a lot and it is a bit "easier" would be a way to put it).

In content outside of BCoB I'd agree with Jager, tend to be one of the last to die if I'm helping a pug or friends in another LS so its not all bad ^^

(and I'm also one of those early XI players that remembers the lolDRG thing ^^;