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I am not talking abou hnm or nm's. I am talking about dyamis, nysle isle and the other events. You could enter dynamis every 3 days, nysle isle you could enter once per day or save up your tags and do 4 runs in 1 day. You had other endgame systems that used point or as they are called in XIV tomes.

Now Odin and behemouth dosent count they are useless and dont offer anything of value. They constantly disappear, there is no challenge in defeating them. Neither speak loud to me they are just a faint whisper, and others will agree with me on that (not all will agree).