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  1. #111
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    The armory/job system was supposed to be a big thing in this game...

    The armory/job system was supposed to be a big thing in this game...But now it is useless. Having 1 loot/1 week lockout on ct gear, primal gear, and a Character lockout for ct makes gearing alt classes pretty much impossible. Why aren't these lockouts JOB specific... At this point I am kinda disheartened. I was looking forward to CT as a way to gear alt jobs. Having to level a full on alt character to do this goes against the armory/job system.

    If the translation on this thread is correct, I am severely disappointed with the direction this game is headed, and with the way they are trying to prolong content by making character over job lockouts, and ridiculous caps.

    If the lockouts for coil and CT were job specific, I would run on 3-4 jobs a week and have plenty of things to do in between each content patch. If it is character specific, I will be a Monday raid logger again. I played XI for years, and time investment was what held you back, not artificial gates...

    I hope this is a mistake(sorry for hoping you translated wrong Reinheart.)

    Edit: I do not mind caps, I just want the ability to gear multiple jobs and enjoy the game more. The only way for this to be possible is "Job" based lockouts, not "Character" based lockouts.
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    Last edited by Zerosix; 12-05-2013 at 08:27 AM.
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  2. #112
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    because like a system where every alt has its own class.. you have a main and that main gets special treatment.. now you can level 1 job in coil, 1 job with myths and a 3rd job with CT.. not really sure what else you want, if you could do it the way you want, you would have all jobs fully geared in CT gear in 5 weeks.. but you dont get another CT update for 6 months, then what? spend that extra time complaining on forums about the lack of content
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  3. #113
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippet View Post
    Reply with even less thought
    Awesome, so now you fully gear in ONE week. then what? this is a brand new game and content HAS to be spaced out until there is enough of it to get a circulation going. Did you really expect them to launch the game with 10-15 different end-game options? thats not the way things work. Especially considering this game is catered to people who dont actually play that much so they feel good about them selves that they have the same stuff as people who actually do stuff.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ...Yes. Let me ask you a question: You can run Cape Westwind all day everyday, do you?
    By the damned Twelve and the cursed Primals... Seriously!? You're going to compare CAPE WESTWIND, a Trial with NO REWARD other than helping someone through to continue on with the story to CRYSTAL TOWER!?

    You are a bloody fool, yes? Me, I will try running the Tower at least once per day until every one of my friends and myself have received a piece of gear for the week.

    If you want a challenge, do Pharos Sirius, which has been confirmed to be the hardest 4-man content for 2.1.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
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    I have no guarantee my item will drop in CT either but the fact of the matter remains

    In a single run of Coil I can obtain more i90 gear than CT which is not the best

    this limitation is straight up BS. Square tells us to use this to gear our Off classes with CT... lol how are we suppose to do that with 1 piece per week
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  6. #116
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    Thanks for translating Reinheart!

    It would be nice if they would do a loot lockout per job. Even if it was weekly that'd give people with multiple jobs things to do and a feel of progression for more then one job.

    This system is still infinitely better then Coil system where we won't see any gear for weeks, so thanks for that SE. Also ability to help friends, and do something different will add some flavor at least.
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  7. #117
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    Stop with the game is new, game got 4month now

    Also they need to put a higher cap, 2.2 will have primals at lv 50 again

    This is non sense I don't want a XI style of beeing 50 for 7 years, Yoshida promised alot of stuff for XIV even for the launch that never happened
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whippet View Post
    Stop with the game is new, game got 4month now

    Also they need to put a higher cap, 2.2 will have primals at lv 50 again

    This is non sense I don't want a XI style of beeing 50 for 7 years, Yoshida promised alot of stuff for XIV even for the launch that never happened
    But it IS a new game, we havent had the first major patch yet and the schedule was slowed because of the cost and time it took to get more servers.. games dont have strong end-game content for at least a year after launch. I havent played GW2 in a while but im pretty sure their end game is still pretty much fractals and a couple of high level dungeons. The beauty of the item level system is that it doesnt matter what level the content is.. its not like a couple of fresh lv. 50s will be able to go fight leviathan. im betting you need at least i.80 to beat them
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    Last edited by Hanabira; 12-05-2013 at 08:42 AM.

  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    It doesn't

    Maybe I shouldn't of translated this stuff and just wait till patch notes ><
    This is why we can't have nice things.....
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    You should have bought an authenticator.....



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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hanabira View Post
    because like a system where every alt has its own class.. you have a main and that main gets special treatment.. now you can level 1 job in coil, 1 job with myths and a 3rd job with CT.. not really sure what else you want, if you could do it the way you want, you would have all jobs fully geared in CT gear in 5 weeks.. but you dont get another CT update for 6 months, then what? spend that extra time complaining on forums about the lack of content
    5 weeks of having tons of stuff to do with all jobs. "CT,Coil,Primals,Myth Cap" vs 1 day worth of content a week for the next forever. Yeah my way is way better and encourages more play from a lot more people. Not the ghost town monday only game we got now.

    My way would allow me to get one piece from each tier per job a week, and have several strong jobs. It will still take a few months to be maxed for each job, at which time we would have more content I could then do on EACH job. The way you are suggesting would take far far far longer, I would be a raid logger, and my secondary jobs would not be able to take on higher end content.

    Job lockouts just make way more sense.
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