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    Quote Originally Posted by Esmian View Post
    If it is true for CT then that's absolutely retarded to have the same lockout for Coil gear when it's a lower level.
    But it's not the same.

    Coil you can only run once a week
    CT you can run it all you want, you just only be able to get an item once a week
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    But it's not the same.

    Coil you can only run once a week
    CT you can run it all you want, you just only be able to get an item once a week
    ...Yes. Let me ask you a question: You can run Cape Westwind all day everyday, do you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ...Yes. Let me ask you a question: You can run Cape Westwind all day everyday, do you?
    To help my Guild Members yes, and the same goes for CT. Also, at least for CT it seems more involved then a standard Party VS Boss.

    I run Primal Fights every so often and I still don't have a Primal Weapon though. Even still, I still run it because it's "fun".

    Cape Westwind isn't really that all that fun, BUT I help my FC when they ask for help with it.


    Do I HAVE to run it all day everyday? No, I do other things, not just spam one piece of content over and over till I die. I spread out the content.

    Edit: Although, I will agree that CT shouldn't have a loot lockout, mainly because it's not the best gear you can get, and CT should be content that you can gear out your alts. Loot Lockout should be for Coil.
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    Last edited by Starlord; 12-05-2013 at 06:04 AM.

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    So let me get this straight...

    Say CT comes with 5 floors like the 5 turns in Coil, does that mean you'll only get loot from the very last boss on the 5th floor?

    Isn't that a disproportional investment? I can't imagine clearing all 5 floors will be a 30 minute run unless there's a serious lack of content and challenge, in which case it's not going to even be fun to clear it all when you have a chance of not getting the gear you want. So what's the point of that? Waste an hour+ for a single piece of mostly cosmetic loot and then log out for the week? I can't imagine that will ever be a selling point for any player ever.

    "Hey did you hear about Crystal Tower? It's a 5 floor dungeon that drops 1 piece of cosmetic loot per week, wanna play FFXIV now? No? Oh..."

    I sincerely hope it's not 1 piece of loot at the very end of the entire thing, that will kill it for me, I love how it looks but either it's going to get boring really fast or something will have to change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boa-Noah View Post
    So let me get this straight...

    Say CT comes with 5 floors like the 5 turns in Coil, does that mean you'll only get loot from the very last boss on the 5th floor?

    Isn't that a disproportional investment? I can't imagine clearing all 5 floors will be a 30 minute run unless there's a serious lack of content and challenge, in which case it's not going to even be fun to clear it all when you have a chance of not getting the gear you want. So what's the point of that? Waste an hour+ for a single piece of mostly cosmetic loot and then log out for the week? I can't imagine that will ever be a selling point for any player ever.
    disproportional investment? compared to stupid fastfoodmmo ( myth gear is fastfoodmmo gear, with a stupid lockout) maybe but no i dont think playing 1hr for one piece of gear for someone in your pt (8 for yours) is a disproportional investment.

    if when you play a game and get no loot you feel like you only wasted your time IMO you should'nt play i


    "Hey did you hear about Crystal Tower? It's a 5 floor dungeon that drops 1 piece of cosmetic loot per week, wanna play FFXIV now? No? Oh..."

    I sincerely hope it's not 1 piece of loot at the very end of the entire thing, that will kill it for me, I love how it looks but either it's going to get boring really fast or something will have to change.
    because what define a game is only loots? then why bother creating dungeons, monster, just create empty dungeons with a coffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    disproportional investment? compared to stupid fastfoodmmo ( myth gear is fastfoodmmo gear, with a stupid lockout) maybe but no i dont think playing 1hr for one piece of gear for someone in your pt (8 for yours) is a disproportional investment.
    It's not a waste to get 1 piece of gear for an hour+ investment, it is however a waste if that isn't a single hour, your gear doesn't drop, and that's the only piece of loot you can get all week.

    Plus once you get your single loot item you have no reason to keep running it except for helping your FC.

    A week is a long time between singular bits of loot, and if the drops are disproportional (like every run is mostly Dragoon gear) you'll have to keep running it from bottom to top to get your gear, plenty enough time to get sick and tired of it.

    I sincerely hope it's a single piece of gear per floor/area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tupsi View Post
    ...Yes. Let me ask you a question: You can run Cape Westwind all day everyday, do you?
    By the damned Twelve and the cursed Primals... Seriously!? You're going to compare CAPE WESTWIND, a Trial with NO REWARD other than helping someone through to continue on with the story to CRYSTAL TOWER!?

    You are a bloody fool, yes? Me, I will try running the Tower at least once per day until every one of my friends and myself have received a piece of gear for the week.

    If you want a challenge, do Pharos Sirius, which has been confirmed to be the hardest 4-man content for 2.1.
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