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  1. #31
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    Lloyd Inhert
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    I'm really tired of this whole situation where people make sweeping statements about the game (ie. 95% of players only login on monday!) based on no facts other than loose observations, and then when people inevitably pop up and point out the ridiculousness of the statement we get called white nights.
    This is so cute coming from the person who just asserted:

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    95% is a completely made up number. You are making ridiculously wild assumptions based solely on your personal experience. [...] That number is likely closer to a tenth of that value or less. Just because you hang out with like minded individuals and perceive most people to be just like you does not in anyway count as proof of the fact. You are in the minority.
    You get called white knights because you're oblivious to your own hypocrisy.
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    Eddard Moore
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    I swear a lot of people on these forums just want to complain about ANYTHING.

    OP was exaggerating and making a joke. It's even been stated on the forums. by quite a bit of people. that all they do is log in on Monday, hit cap, and go play something else. Are you all really that pissed at life?
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  3. #33
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    Nadrojj Rolyatt
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    Siren
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    Log in Monday Coil 1-4, try turn 5 a few times and log. Log in tuesday five WP runs and then see you next Monday. I don't even care about making gil anymore. Can't wait for the update to breathe some new life into the game.
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  4. #34
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    Tiggy Te'al
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    Quote Originally Posted by PallasLloyd View Post
    This is so cute coming from the person who just asserted:



    You get called white knights because you're oblivious to your own hypocrisy.
    That isn't hypocrisy. No where did I make an assertion of a specific number. In fact I use verbage that suggests I clearly don't know the real answer. Such as saying "that number is likely" instead of making an explicit statement deciding how much that number must absolutely be. I call players like a minority this because Yoshi-p does. He has the census info and is in a position to make such factual statements. No you. Not me. Not anyone here. Learn to point out hypocrisy when it's real please.
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  5. #35
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    Not me. I find it hard to even get through Coils, get alone cap on my myth. Doing the same thing all the time is so mind numbingly boring....but I have nothing else to do in the game and I want to gear up my other jobs, lol.
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  6. #36
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    Sunarie Rymshek
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    That isn't hypocrisy.
    I think the hypocrisy part was you not having any actual numbers and then calling one group the minority. Fact of the matter is, you can't know either way. We don't have any recent numbers from SE as far as subscription levels go. We have mixed statements from both sides of the board on the forums.. neither of which is an adequate gauge as forums aren't really used by most the people playing the game. All anyone has to go on is personal experience in the game at this point and that's widely mixed as well. Jumping completely on either side of the fence is not statistically supported.
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  7. #37
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    Mrv Light
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fated View Post
    I'm sure 95% of the game's population beats BC turns 1-5 and caps their myth on Monday.
    95% of my friends list does :\

    you're right though, we're in the minority.. most MMO players don't devour content as fast as the forums would have you think... just sucks having literally zero reason to log in for more than ~90 mins a week.

    I'd kill for a merit system as robust as EQ's Alternate Advancement, or DAoC's Realm Abilities... some way to progress our characters other than the gear treadmill :\
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    http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/1037683/achievement/detail/747/

  8. #38
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    2 weeks, sure. Then instead of clearing BCB in 60 mins, people will clear BCB, CT, and primals in 3 hours and still take the rest of the week off.
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  9. #39
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    Olan Durai
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    It's amazing how many people don't get that a MMORPG never has much content if you don't lose. The point of being good is so that you don't waste time wiping and can have time left to do other things, including playing other games. I really don't get the guys who seem to be bragging about how they clear some stuff in a short time and then complain about it. If you are actually good, you should've been doing that for years in every MMORPG that existed. There was never more than a day of worthwhile content to do in a given week if you're actually beating everything in a timely manner and that's hardly anything worth complaining about.
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  10. #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunarie View Post
    I think the hypocrisy part was you not having any actual numbers and then calling one group the minority. Fact of the matter is, you can't know either way. We don't have any recent numbers from SE as far as subscription levels go. We have mixed statements from both sides of the board on the forums.. neither of which is an adequate gauge as forums aren't really used by most the people playing the game. All anyone has to go on is personal experience in the game at this point and that's widely mixed as well. Jumping completely on either side of the fence is not statistically supported.
    I don't have the link since I can't remember which letter he said it in, but Yoshi-p did say most players weren't to the coil yet. That's as close to absolute as anyone is going to get. Going based off that calling those coil players complaining about a lack of content a minority isn't an exaggeration nor a sign of any hypocrisy from me.
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