DON"T DO IT !

[Hanabira]

The more I look into it, the less I feel that it's true. I believe now that Twintania hits with Death Sentence in Phase 1 for 4.5K, then 7.5-8K in Phase 2 and onward. (Pre Mitigation)

I just fought twintania again last night, i ate a 7.6k death sentence without defiance on (i had 6.8khp) so i guess i was wrong. but its still ridiculous that an attack that deals nearly 8k to war does like 3-4k to a pld.

[Leonus]

Well if you got hit for that much, shouldn't the pld in your party get hit for 6.2-6.3k hp?

Or was he effectively getting hit for that much the entire fight, while rotating CDs?

War is gonna need those 2.1 buffs to compete without being geared to the teeth.

[Traek]

I just fought twintania again last night, i ate a 7.6k death sentence without defiance on (i had 6.8khp) so i guess i was wrong. but its still ridiculous that an attack that deals nearly 8k to war does like 3-4k to a pld.

Wasn't going to post in here but this misinformation is boggling me. Please stop making up numbers. If you got hit for 7.6k a PLD would get hit for 6080 on PLD without any CDs up. The only reason you'd see lower numbers is because the PLD uses his CDs properly. I can attest to this, as I tank Twintania on my PLD and have gotten hit for these high numbers without a CD on. Please look forward to it.

[ZDamned]

Wasn't going to post in here but this misinformation is boggling me. Please stop making up numbers. If you got hit for 7.6k a PLD would get hit for 6080 on PLD without any CDs up. The only reason you'd see lower numbers is because the PLD uses his CDs properly. I can attest to this, as I tank Twintania on my PLD and have gotten hit for these high numbers without a CD on. Please look forward to it.

Why are you blatantly saying things like that? I got hit damn near the same, if not a little higher. (7800) So, what are you posting this for, when Hanabira basically said "Sorry about my misinformation; this is what I got hit for."

Paladins get hit for 6.4K ish then with a CD drop it to 3.8K(Sentinel)-5.2K(Rampart). Give or take a little with Protect as well as Stone Skins helping out. Nothing here is all that brutally misinformed after Hanabira apologized.

[Traek]

Why are you blatantly saying things like that? I got hit damn near the same, if not a little higher. (7800) So, what are you posting this for, when Hanabira basically said "Sorry about my misinformation; this is what I got hit for."

Paladins get hit for 6.4K ish then with a CD drop it to 3.8K(Sentinel)-5.2K(Rampart). Give or take a little with Protect as well as Stone Skins helping out. Nothing here is all that brutally misinformed after Hanabira apologized.

Saying it isn't fair PLDs get hit for 4k from Death Sentence while you get hit for 7.8k is disingenuous. That is misinformation as the PLD has blown a CD and you have not. If you are going to start arguing about PLD CD suite being much better then WAR, then you are beating the dead horse, and it is why people crying about their IB heal being changed to 20% DR are short sighted.

[ZDamned]

Saying it isn't fair PLDs get hit for 4k from Death Sentence while you get hit for 7.8k is disingenuous. That is misinformation as the PLD has blown a CD and you have not. If you are going to start arguing about PLD CD suite being much better then WAR, then you are beating the dead horse, and it is why people crying about their IB heal being changed to 20% DR are short sighted.

Well, without the changed warriors are getting, it IS ridiculous if were meant to use IB to mitigate the damage taken... Just more fuel to why the OP is to completely wrong and uninformed. Neither of us are complaining, just pointing out that Warriors NEED this change. You seem to be on an implied crusade. =P Chill out man, and remember what the thread was about, then look at what we were talking about in context.

[Judge_Xero]

While it does sound strange I can see where they are coming from. War currently has no mitigation so they will always be taking the higher damage. So saying PLD only takes X damage is kind of true as they would be rotating CDs. War always needs to be above 8k HP to survive. Then they can pop IB to heal. PLD can survive with just above half health in most cases

[Traek]

Well, without the changed warriors are getting, it IS ridiculous if were meant to use IB to mitigate the damage taken... Just more fuel to why the OP is to completely wrong and uninformed. Neither of us are complaining, just pointing out that Warriors NEED this change. You seem to be on an implied crusade. =P Chill out man, and remember what the thread was about, then look at what we were talking about in context.

I think we are saying the same thing. I am not a morning person and should probably not post in my current state. Lol Sorry if I'm being a jerk either way. I just read most the posts in this thread and couldn't help but shake my head.

I'm actually going back to my Warrior when 2.1 changes swing in. Only went PLD to help out the raid group, so yes OP is completely wrong.

[ZDamned]

I think we are saying the same thing. I am not a morning person and should probably not post in my current state. Lol Sorry if I'm being a jerk either way. I just read most the posts in this thread and couldn't help but shake my head.

I'm actually going back to my Warrior when 2.1 changes swing in. Only went PLD to help out the raid group, so yes OP is completely wrong.

Hehe, EXACTLY!
What I was saying to be less offensive to the OP was that we need like greater than 14K HP in order to make Inner Beast in it's current state work out in the long run. But in the end, the changes being made are amazing, and I can't wait until I can be taken seriously on my Main class in Coil 2 weeks down the road. Until then, I just bought 2 Hero Accessories (Belt and Ring) and i'm playing Paladin! >.<

[Exstal]

I just fought twintania again last night, i ate a 7.6k death sentence without defiance on (i had 6.8khp) so i guess i was wrong. but its still ridiculous that an attack that deals nearly 8k to war does like 3-4k to a pld.

It only hits for that low if Paladin pops something or some kind of outside defensive cd is applied. Proof? My Paladin got hit for 6,384 Death Sentence last night with ~1800 auto attack followed up with it. "One shot"