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    NRhodes's Avatar
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    Blizz Bear
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Here is to answer your questions:

    1. Order truly doesn't matter besides the linear progression of gear WP gear > AK gear > Darklight > Myth/Allagan.
    2. There aren't any "caps" per say, but there are for like Coil, certain stats you must have, especially as Tanks and DPS. And to counter harkinate - why would weapon dmg be a priority for a healer? It doesn't effect heals. I get what you mean, but if you don't have your Relic/+1 before entering Coil, you're wrong. Also, all your Mind stats will come from your gear, even if you craft it, you can't meld with main stat.

    Stat Priority should be - Crit -> Det (only see DR with DPS, not heals) -> Spell Speed

    3. Yes it's nice to level another class or all the classes to Lv. 50. One, you'll get the Cross Class abilities (which you only need THM (26) and CNJ (34). But just so you have utility. THOUGH! If you are not a hardcore type of player I would stick to a single class for end game.
    4. You can solo heal up to Titan HM.
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    Harkinelle Destrega
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    Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
    Here is to answer your questions:
    And to counter harkinate - why would weapon dmg be a priority for a healer? It doesn't effect heals. I get what you mean, but if you don't have your Relic/+1 before entering Coil, you're wrong.

    Weapon damage absolutely affects heals (to be more specific, Magic Damage). Each Magic Damage stat is roughly equivalent to 9 MND in terms of the healing boost. What are you even talking about? You say that then go on to say that if you don't have Relic before entering Coil you're wrong? What do you think is the primary reason for getting Relic+1? MND?

    Also, regardless of where MND comes from it should have the highest priority on any gear choices you make, outside of the weapon. I never mentioned melds.
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    Last edited by harkinate; 12-05-2013 at 01:31 AM.

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    Athena Darkfairy
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    Siren
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    As a SCH who has recently done this same road myself, this was what I did, starting with full AF and the level 44 GC weapon.

    >DF runs for Wanderer's Palace. You can't speedrun it, so just take your time and have fun.

    You goals in WP are:

    Darklight Grimoire to replace your weapon (drops off the Tonberry King)
    Warlock gear to replace your AF.
    Philosophy Tomes to purchase, first and foremost, the Darklight Cowl of Healing and the Darklight Breeches of Healing. Those two will give you an enormous stat boost.

    Once you have those two pieces, the weapon, and Warlock gear everywhere else, that is a reasonable point to start your Relic quest. Once you unlock and clear Amdapor Keep, you should run it several times for the Strategos gear to replace your WP gear and get some of the Darklight Accessories. At that point you're geared enough to finish the Relic quest.
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    Exstal's Avatar
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    Shichi Mamura
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    Behemoth
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    Pugilist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
    Here is to answer your questions:

    1. Order truly doesn't matter besides the linear progression of gear WP gear > AK gear > Darklight > Myth/Allagan.
    2. There aren't any "caps" per say, but there are for like Coil, certain stats you must have, especially as Tanks and DPS. And to counter harkinate - why would weapon dmg be a priority for a healer? It doesn't effect heals. I get what you mean, but if you don't have your Relic/+1 before entering Coil, you're wrong. Also, all your Mind stats will come from your gear, even if you craft it, you can't meld with main stat.

    Stat Priority should be - Crit -> Det (only see DR with DPS, not heals) -> Spell Speed

    3. Yes it's nice to level another class or all the classes to Lv. 50. One, you'll get the Cross Class abilities (which you only need THM (26) and CNJ (34). But just so you have utility. THOUGH! If you are not a hardcore type of player I would stick to a single class for end game.
    4. You can solo heal up to Titan HM.
    Up to and including Titan HM. (obviously not your first time)
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    Sanare_Anahita's Avatar
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    Sana Tacita
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    As far as I've seen, and in my experiences with Scholar so far, I've noticed the following:
    1) Weapon damage DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE. The relic weapon was a nice upgrade, if you aren't running Deus Gratia fully melded, it'll be a noticeable bump in heals.
    2) Crits make me squee in joy. Why? because every time I crit an adloquium, the barrier effect is doubled. With food, I'm running a 20%-ish crit chance, and I love it dearly. 900 adlo? 1800 barrier. Simply beautiful.
    3) We don't need PIE for anything. Why? Because if you're a smart little book nerd, you keep using your aetherflow stacks / aetherflow ability every darn time it comes up, even if you're only missing 200MP. Why? because waiting to use aetherflow until your MP is low is just ridiculous.
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    Bije Brand
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    Adamantoise
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Up to and including Titan HM. (obviously not your first time)
    Turn 1 can be solo healed.

    Turn 2 should be able to be solo healed. Maybe someone else will beat me to it, but I might try next lockout.

    (Note: There's no good reason to solo heal any Turns in Coil, but you can)
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
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    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bije View Post
    Turn 1 can be solo healed.

    Turn 2 should be able to be solo healed. Maybe someone else will beat me to it, but I might try next lockout.

    (Note: There's no good reason to solo heal any Turns in Coil, but you can)
    Turn 1 I'd never want to try it, but I'm guessing you'll have to be very fast in killing it. Anything more than 1 or 2 stacks on both snakes I don't think would be healable. Alternatively just let them combine and just kite it around, then you could go for a 1/1/6 setup.

    Turn 2 I'd say definitely up until ADS uses rot, after that it's going to be rough for a solo healer. Worth a try though and much like Titan would rely on killing it fast and people not taking unnecessary damage.
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    Mysidia Baron
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    Gilgamesh
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by NRhodes View Post
    Stat Priority should be - Crit -> Det (only see DR with DPS, not heals) -> Spell Speed
    This "weighting" is incorrect and built on a fundamental ignorance of how Adloquium works. Adloquium does not become stronger with crit. The heal has a chance to crit followed by a 2x shield as a result. Your heal will be 1.5x due to crit and your shield will be 2x that crit. However, you will only be able to get approximately 18-19% crit right now. You will have a chance for a larger variance of heals, but your average heal will not increase per se as you are relying on a probabilistic heal.

    Determination will increase all of your heals uniformally. Your Physick and Adloquium heal component will always be larger with Det. This means you'll have a smaller variance and range. Your average heal will increase overall.

    Knowing this: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...=sharing#gid=0

    I draw you to look at the Simulation area and at 4:1 Physick:Adlo. You'll see that Crit weighted will shield and heal for 127907. If you go Det and Allagan, you'll shield and heal for 125864. That's less than 2,000 healed over 250s. The only time you'll see crit shine is if you spam Adlo and get lucky with crits.

    So, it's suggested that you weight Det or Crit based on your chosen heal style. Det is great for sustained. Crit will be great for burst. Both will do the same job.
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