Quote Originally Posted by Peptaru View Post
One person is using numbers based on testing, the other says nu-uh and uses speculative numbers. Guess who I'll believe for now.
Using different sets of numbers based on testing, and coming to personal conclusions on each side. Neither of us did the testing we both make reference to, and neither of us can say beyond a shadow of a doubt that we are right. We're also comparing numbers established in different contexts, which is apples and oranges at best. Believe what you want of course, but you should probably make the effort to research the issue on your own.

Nobody has a definitive answer here, we can both admit that.