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  1. #11
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    PetiteMalFleur's Avatar
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    Viva Diva
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    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 60
    Brayflox was easier as a scholar and so was CC. Maybe it was experience, with my WHM being my first class, or gear, or both. I found it incredibly easy to heal both these dungeons. You just had a bad healer. No arsonal of skills would have helped him.
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  2. #12
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    Gaarv's Avatar
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    Val Gaarv
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 50
    I've been doing Brayflox as WHM and SCH and its pretty equal (mana management for WHM, working with poison stacks for SCH). I've done Cutter's Cry only as SCH and Stone Vigil as well recently. I found myself often in difficulty when deadling with frequent AoE (Stone Vigil especially). Does anyone would have advice on this ?

    In general, I found that SCH is better when you already know the fights.
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  3. #13
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    Alkimi's Avatar
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Richiealvian View Post
    Is it just me or I feel that SCH's powerfulness increases as their gears go up. I think a full 90 scholar does wonders compared to full 90 WHM, except for the lack of Holy. Like for example.. I do think that twintania's 2nd phase would be half as hard with 2 scholars than 1 scholar and 1 whm. (dunno entire fight, only got up to snakes) but things like WP speedruns are going to be WHM aced. So it's like Scholar= devoted entirely for heals and WHM= half dps half heals..
    Perhaps, if Adloqium stacked. I would say for that fight that 2xSCH would probably work better than 2xWHM, simply because of Death Sentence (which as you're progressing through the fight will still cause you more wipes than any of her other mechanics). But WHM/SCH is still the ideal combination, the fight still has it's moments of intense healing requirements where WHM is very useful.
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  4. #14
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    Delvish's Avatar
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    Delvish Strebers
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 0
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Never had issues with a SCH healing Brayflox or Cutter's Cry as long as they were paying attention to what they should be doing. What I have seen however is in AK and WP, the SCH's don't like to even use leeches often.

    On a sidenote, the only issue I see is the Fairies dropping on the 1st and Last Boss in AV. I wouldn't mind seeing fairies receive AOE Resistance or Immunity. But even in AV, a SCH can heal it no problem if they pay attention. Course paying attention and positioning for many DF healers is a problem. But a problem they simply need to fix themselves.
    I had Eos out during Aurum Vale and checked her buff window. She was at 50%hp and just embracing herself away with 9 stacks of that debuff... Inefficient use of Embrace, but hey. I'd recommend for those fights that SCHs have swiftcast and just resummon after so many stacks.

    As for the lack of Leeches until 40... as a SCH who went from 32-38 almost 100% from Brayflox I know this discrepancy well. It is doable, but man that poison is rough. CC is little different but I never had much issue with it particularly when using shields effectively.
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  5. #15
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    LiadansWhisper's Avatar
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    Liadan Summerfield
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaarv View Post
    I've been doing Brayflox as WHM and SCH and its pretty equal (mana management for WHM, working with poison stacks for SCH). I've done Cutter's Cry only as SCH and Stone Vigil as well recently. I found myself often in difficulty when deadling with frequent AoE (Stone Vigil especially). Does anyone would have advice on this ?

    In general, I found that SCH is better when you already know the fights.
    SCH is a proactive healer with very poor ability to react to unexpected damage. As a result, you're better off pre-bubbling everyone with Succor rather than trying to heal everyone up after the fact.
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  6. #16
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    Rydiah's Avatar
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    Sypha Belnades
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    Hyperion
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I dunno, I had no issues healing through Cutter's Cry or Brayflox as SCH. I thought it was easier on SCH than it was on WHM.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    On a sidenote, the only issue I see is the Fairies dropping on the 1st and Last Boss in AV. I wouldn't mind seeing fairies receive AOE Resistance or Immunity. But even in AV, a SCH can heal it no problem if they pay attention. Course paying attention and positioning for many DF healers is a problem. But a problem they simply need to fix themselves.
    That's really annoying. I don't think fairies should get those debuffs, since there's no way to get rid of it. Also, I beat Titan tonight (my first time making it through without dying, yay!) and she almost died on the last phase.
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  7. #17
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    StarHate's Avatar
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    Magitek Automaton
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    Leviathan
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    Marauder Lv 80
    I just unlocked Scholar recently and easily healed Brayflox; Adloq is more than enough to handle it - but I don't think that was the OP's point. If they are going to design boss fights and content with certain mechanics in mind, then there has to be an equivalency in dealing with those mechanics. AKA- if at 30+ you want healers to dispel, then you had better give both healers dispel at 30

    Of course it can be brute forced with Adloq, but it shouldn't have to be.
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  8. #18
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Don't remember having any issue in this dungeon as SCH.... Aurum Vale however..... T_T
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    Larek Darkholme @ Ragnarok

  9. #19
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    Maku's Avatar
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    Maku Haikasu
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    Mateus
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    Black Mage Lv 70
    Healed every Dungeon as SCH. It is doable but Bray and Cutters does take some help from having skilled (or at least not bad) party members. I started leveling up WHM for a while, have not done Cutters yet but Bray was stupid easy with WHM. However, the despondency goes away after 40 and both healers have very different roles to play and both are amazing especially when in combination. ^^ Just gota plug through it OR go SMN till you get Leeches. ^^
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    可愛い悪魔

  10. #20
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Fairy alone can outheal every dot in Brayflox or Cutter.
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    Yoshi-P is doing his best and is patching Endwalker. Please wait warmly until it is ready.

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