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  1. #21
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    Swear_Bear's Avatar
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    Swear Bear
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    Midgardsormr
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    I often alternated between going WHM and SCH on brayflox runs, depending on my mood. In general, even when the tank stays in red zones, I found it more manageable to heal through on SCH than use esuna on WHM.
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    1. The number of Lv.50 classes/jobs you have says nothing about your skill.
    2. FATEs are responsible for the majority of Lv.50 "derps".
    3. Don't blame a healer if you died in red zones; that was all on you.
    4. As a healer, healing is your top priority; DPSing comes second.
    5. As a tank, your healer can only keep you alive for so long; avoid red zones, too.
    6. As a DPS, you're partially responsible for hate management, too.
    7. Don't belittle newbs for their lack of skill or knowledge; you were one of them once.

  2. #22
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    NRhodes's Avatar
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    Blizz Bear
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    Exodus
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Erwhindal View Post
    Cutter's Cry (38) 2nd boss Giant Tunnel Worm.

    Worm puts a Sludge Dot on a random party member that lasts for forever and a day. With a WHM/CNJ it's a simple matter of Esuna and you're on your way. However, SCH doesn't get Leeches until level 40. This seems like a large unfair discrepancy.

    As my main WHM, healing through that boss is easy. Ran today as a PLD with a SCH healer and he had a bear of a time keeping everyone up due to being unable to dispell the debuff. I know this is probably the ONLY situation where this comes up...but what gives? Poor SCH...
    Just another case of some random not knowing how to play their class honestly.
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  3. #23
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    Rhindas's Avatar
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    Selawyn Kludra
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by peaches View Post
    I totally agree that not having a way to cure debuff until so late REALLY sucks. But in the situation you described, it is actually avoidable. Just make sure you Adlo the person who is about to be hit, and he won't receive the debuff. It may require either knowledge of the fight and practice, or just a lot of preemptive bubbling.
    Precisely. If the target of the debuff takes no damage, the debuff does not proc. Keeping Stoneskin on all the non-tank members and smart use of Adloquium will keep that debuff from even showing up in that fight.
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  4. #24
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    Nonlinear314's Avatar
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    Gorgeous George
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Waliel View Post
    Fairy alone can outheal every dot in Brayflox or Cutter.
    This. No need for leeches in the 30s because a properly placed Eos does all of the work anyway.
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    I agree. Some fool at SE really overlooked this.
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  6. #26
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    Jack Magus
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    Shiva
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gaarv View Post
    I've been doing Brayflox as WHM and SCH and its pretty equal (mana management for WHM, working with poison stacks for SCH). I've done Cutter's Cry only as SCH and Stone Vigil as well recently. I found myself often in difficulty when deadling with frequent AoE (Stone Vigil especially). Does anyone would have advice on this ?

    In general, I found that SCH is better when you already know the fights.
    Running as a SMN main, I realized that I am incredibly rusty as a healer.
    I haven't healed in a long time, focusing on getting my other classes leveled.
    Healing and to a certain extent Scholar specifically, is probably one of the jobs that you need to be on top of your game all the time.

    I helped out a FC member last night in SV as SCH and I confess that I was very self-conscious about my job.
    It is important though that we look at our job and realize and accept our shortcomings and fix them.
    Know what you have to do to become better and get it done.
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  7. #27
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    Andros Dyrstwyrn
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    Cerberus
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by necrosis View Post
    I agree. Some fool at SE really overlooked this.
    lol necrosis your name is correct you resurrect old threads

  8. #28
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    Coth_X's Avatar
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    Coth Ex
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Well while its revived.

    I will say that using adlo in this fight isn't as simplified as brayflox. And since I don't get leeches until 1 level away from leaving cutter's that's kind of annoying. My adlos only hit for almost 300 and the sludge ticks for 150 and is active for 20 secs. Luckily the last worm boss only targeted the bard lolz.

    Brayflox aside, I really feel like leeches at 35 would have been nice (._.)
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  9. #29
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 63
    I still remember saying that SCHs have an advantage at brayflox level over WHMs.

    Esuna is nice... but aetherflow, fairy, and bane is better. WHMs don't get regen at bray either. SCHs don't need to commit to casting themselves to healing every bit of damage that happens. WHMs are pretty shallow at that level.

    Cutter's... never had a problem with that place, even without leeches. Might have to cast a few more heals, if that, but it's not crippling.
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  10. #30
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    Character
    Arch Ultia
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 60
    It doesn't matter... It's all about player skills.
    WHMs are traditional final fantasy healers. Thus, they have exactly what they should have, and so Schs. I personally solo healed extremes as a white mage, and I have seen Sch who have done fantastic job.. That even made me wanna try Schs. They both have positive and negative side in them. We can't just pick single unique ability from one class and add it to another. Both healers shouldn't be the same. Once you get your gear and start doing end games. It's no longer about who got dispel eailer. But, how you going to play the class.
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