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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardahtoh View Post
    wow...

    It's a very simple question and it's too hard for anyone here to answer. Gaming community is more retarded than ever these days... and it's only getting worse
    Or you are retarded and don't understand how to properly phrase a request.

    You ask for highest dps on a training dummy...

    How long do you want people to dps for?
    Is aoe allowed?

    These sort of factors completely determine the answer you are looking for. If I was you, and being an intelligent person, I would have said something along the lines of....

    "What is the highest anyone has parsed on a training dummy while dpsing for 5 minutes / 50,000 total damage with / without using aoe skills."
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    Last edited by Nuffy; 12-03-2013 at 07:55 PM.

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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    There was a thread like this not so long ago.

    It also sucked because 90% of people posting didn't post any logs.

    Same with the "whats the most damage you've done in a single attack" thread.

    If it serves the community no purpose (such as trying to get an avg of relative job dps, trying to see different dps on different fights, etc) it just turns into a giant pissing contest.
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  3. #13
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    Philia Felice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    ..Use common sense? Do a ST rotation that doesn't end right after a CD is up?
    Seems like a bit of a rude response to an offer I gave to get a better topic going instead of no one posting their results, as happened.

    The original question is "What's everyone's highest dps reached with the training dummy?" It doesn't say do a ST rotation, and when to decide your CDs are past enough to not inflate your numbers. Sadly, there's not one common sense parser test everyone follows or should follow; in practice a 10-20 second parser result (trash), or a 1-2 minute parser result (AK/WP boss), a 5 minute parser test, or a 13 minute parser result (Twintania), will be far different in numbers and favor certain classes more than others. As I said, without guidelines you can't get a proper basis and makes the topic question too broad regardless of a universal basis you believe the question entailed, written somewhere in stone. No one's results would count for anything unless they themselves chose to copy another person's exact guidelines.

    Things that could vary from person to person:
    AoE/ST
    Party buffs
    Food
    Potion use
    End time
    Total duration
    RNG with procs and crits and repeats (BLM could re-do the parser over and over until something quite a bit higher than normal appears and would fit with "What's everyone's highest dps reached with the training dummy?")
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    Last edited by Sleigh; 12-03-2013 at 11:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuffy View Post
    You ask for highest dps on a training dummy...

    How long do you want people to dps for?
    Is aoe allowed?
    Can I join a full party and prep an LB2 for a 5 second parse with a 1 second encounter culling threshold?

    Can I keep re-doing the dummy test until I get a 60%, I mean 75% crit rate over 3 minutes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleigh View Post
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    I don't know if you've participated in other MMOs where people do this, but the general rule is do a ST rotation that ends when a CD is up, or your resource is up.

    And then you use common sense.

    If you apply other variables, you state what they were.

    Since the topic said "highest DPS on dummy," you can conclude that he wanted highest ST DPS. So, use buffs, pots, food, etc.

    Here, I'll start(even though parsing is broken for SMN):

    http://i.imgur.com/VBPUV7t.jpg


    2 minutes 13 seconds. Out of party, no food. Stopped when I ran out of MP(not as much of an issue in party).
    I used a Hi-Int potion(+26 INT) for the initial RS/Contagion combo.
    I still used Shadow Flare, even though it doesn't register on the parser at all.
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    Parsing for a short period of time doesn't really mean anything. For example, my BRD can get up to 430 DPS with initial burst (all buffs activated) but the "real" sustained DPS after 5 minutes will be around 250 and stay around the same even if I add 5 more minutes into it reactivating buffs etc. My MNK can get up to 370 DPS from initial burst but stay at 300~ DPS after 5 minutes, unfortunately my MNK runs out of TP if engaged for this long without a break (499 skill speed without GL).
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    Freri Eradil
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    Already posted in another thread:

    http://i.imgur.com/N0J9NO0.jpg

    No grp, devilled eggs.
    Best try out of 10.
    Pretty lucky HS critrate, BL procs were a bit over average i guess.
    Autoattack critrate was lacking though : (
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Can I join a full party and prep an LB2 for a 5 second parse with a 1 second encounter culling threshold?

    Can I keep re-doing the dummy test until I get a 60%, I mean 75% crit rate over 3 minutes?
    If the test allows it then sure why not. You should probably focus on T5 though since you are already weeks behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Can I join a full party and prep an LB2 for a 5 second parse with a 1 second encounter culling threshold?

    Can I keep re-doing the dummy test until I get a 60%, I mean 75% crit rate over 3 minutes?
    You're talking about Longnu Era aren't you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vardahtoh View Post
    wow...

    It's a very simple question and it's too hard for anyone here to answer. Gaming community is more retarded than ever these days... and it's only getting worse
    I notice a lot of evasive answers on these boards. I can't imagine anyone is stupid enough not to realize people are seeking average single-target DPS output. In WoW, they call these "Patchwerk" scenarios - in optimum conditions (single-target, nothing to dodge, nothing to avoid, nothing to time, no mechanics, where the boss stands there and gets beat on) because of a boss named Patchwerk that encompassed just that.

    Over a 10 minute period with mostly AK/WP pieces and DL, I averaged ~200 DPS, assuming inaccurate parsers and including rotational on-CD CD useage. Obviously this number is subject to change on high movement fights (where BRDs/MNKs will excel) and other factors.

    Jeez, it's like determining thoroughput is difficult or something.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 12-04-2013 at 10:32 AM.

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