Reason why DF people fail Titan

[zPanda]

Let's be real here - Titan is all about memorization of the patterns/moves, it's not really any form of "skill" unless you consider memorization a skill here.

Main keys to winning Titan aside from the DPS check during heart phase is just knowing when these 2 moves occur post-heart and where to go:

1) Stacked plumes
2) bomb-pattern followed by landslide

If you completely randomized the order of the moves post-heart and the moves did not come at any specific "rhythm" timing, you would see a lot more people not being able to beat Titan yet. With the 0.3 second server position updating along with any latency you might have on your end - good luck if the fight were designed this way instead of the predictable pattern it is now.

[Shneibel]

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I belive deff = def ?
I have a MNk too and I have 4k-4,1k hp in titan, so I survive well in tulmult, if your hp is low, you might want to re-location your stats.
Have nothing to say about plume beside with the amount of hp I got even lag or get MPK, i wont die by eat double plume

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ability to learn fast (learning or memorize) is something to be proud of isnt it ? skill or not is irrilevant, imo. Though I wont say that healing in titan doesnt required skill.

[Yuff-Yuff]

Here is my opinion about Titan Hard mode and why people in it fail !

First of all, I appreciate your effort, but it's still quite a pain to read your writing. No offense tho.

Sadly, in the current generation of online games, it's not common knowledge anymore that people actually GET TOGETHER in groups to do big stuff like Titan in FF:ARR.
Stuff like the Dutyfinder is a tool to casualize MMORPGs, so more Players can do stuff more easier.
WoW did a great job with that idea, but we have to think of the origins.
These Dungeons, or Trials, of whatever you wanna call them are DESIGNED. to be done by a group of players who made a group to achieve just that goal.
That includes at least having a voicechat for everyone, so someone who already has expierience can guide the others.

It's actually MEANT to be that way. Titan is not INTENDED to get slain in the DF.
If it would be different, it would just be as boring as WoW is nowdays.

[DarkRain]

First of all, I appreciate your effort, but it's still quite a pain to read your writing. No offense tho.


Sadly, in the current generation of online games, it's not common knowledge anymore that people actually GET TOGETHER in groups to do big stuff like Titan in FF:ARR.
Stuff like the Dutyfinder is a tool to casualize MMORPGs, so more Players can do stuff more easier.
WoW did a great job with that idea, but we have to think of the origins.
These Dungeons, or Trials, of whatever you wanna call them are DESIGNED. to be done by a group of players who made a group to achieve just that goal.
That includes at least having a voicechat for everyone, so someone who already has expierience can guide the others.

It's actually MEANT to be that way. Titan is not INTENDED to get slain in the DF.
If it would be different, it would just be as boring as WoW is nowdays.

I like what you said BUT ......... If Titan was not intended to be slain in the DF then the Devs would not have added it on the list . Just sayin .


My opinion Titan is not a gear check . Anyone with Item Level 60 gear can do Titan HM . ( AK gear drops and some WP gear drops ) You do not need DL for it . DL was meant to be for Coil same with Relic . Titan is a Idiot check . Sorry but it is true . Some people just can not do it because they don't have the critical thinking to do it . Nor the memory skills . People today ( typically under the age of 25 ) not all but a vast majority of people think there entitled . So sure a lot of people might have been carried this far in the game because of it . Some resort to buying a titan run because well they "deserve" to have that victory as shallow of one that it is. Others ( typically over 25 ) know what Earning something is . And know that they will try and try and try to get better and make that victory even more sweeter .

Just my opinion like rear ends everyone has one .

[Yuff-Yuff]

If Titan was not intended to be slain in the DF then the Devs would not have added it on the list . Just sayin .

I think you misunderstood me.
Well, maybe I just expressed myself in the wrong way.
Of course, you're right with that.

All I'm saying is, that you can't expect to slay Titan with a DF Group.
It has been designed to be done with a group I described in my previous post.
The Dungeonfinder is an addition to that. But the Titan Hardmode itself was surely not made to just be a DF-Instance

Hope that clears it up.

[MikoteAstra]

Shneibel

Me as new player i dont have the best gear there it is with main story gear i dont think you will have 4k hp and as far as i saw in the forums monk must put all his stats points into the (STR) !
And about the Plume, if all think like you the the developers should stop fixing bugs and etc. all together ! Get yourself a high end gear and weapon and the bugs wont make much of a problem for you ! Sorry but this wrong !

Yuff-Yuff

I do understand that there must be alot of hard parts in the game !

But if in a MMORPG you cant finish some parts of the game with random people in the game then for me such MMORPG goes in the wrong way !

For me MMORPG is a game in witch i can explore and meet with alot of new people and do the stuff in game with new players witch i just met or help them ! If i cant do that and im forced to finish parts of the game only with group of my best friends in real life then what is the point of the Online game ! Grind alone dont meet with new people, dont help other players !

It should be that more advance and experiance people in the game be able to help the other players, but as you saied it is imposable ! And Titan hard mode witch is bound to a main story quest for your weapon is good example of it !

Why, is it wrong the strong players to help us the new once to finish it and get ourself the weapon too ! Is that wrong players to help other players !

[DarkRain]

Shneibel

Me as new player i dont have the best gear there it is with main story gear i dont think you will have 4k hp and as far as i saw in the forums monk must put all his stats points into the (STR) !
And about the Plume, if all think like you the the developers should stop fixing bugs and etc. all together ! Get yourself a high end gear and weapon and the bugs wont make much of a problem for you ! Sorry but this wrong !

Yuff-Yuff

I do understand that there must be alot of hard parts in the game !

But if in a MMORPG you cant finish a some parts of the game with random people in the game then from me such MMORPG goes in the wrong way !

For me MMORPG is a game in witch i can explore and meet with alot of new people and do the stuff in game with new players witch i just met or help them ! If i cant do that and im forced to finish parts of the game only with group of my best friends in real life then what is the point of the Online game ! Grind alone dont meet with new people, dont help other players !

It should be that more advance and experiance people in the game be able to help the other players, but as you saied it is imposable ! And Titan hard mode witch is bound to a main story quest for your weapon is good example of it !

Why, is it wrong the strong players to help us the new once to finish it and get ourself the weapon too ! Is that wrong players to help other players !

It is not wrong at all . People who have experience SHOULD help . But they dont . And ill tell you why . Because people are selfish and greedy . Sad but true a lot of people only care about one thing. Themselves . In a MMORPG and not ina clan or free company or linkshell chances are you will get left behind . I am sure you are a great person and a very nice person but nice and great wont get you anywhere in a MMO . Now there are some who are willing to help there are some who try to teach things . Me and my FC we help people out all the time . But there comes a point where up toss your hands in the air because everything you tried to teach someone fails over and over and over again . So what do you do ? You keep trying ! You get better . You take a deep breath and remember this is only a game and is meant for you to have fun . So no matter what someone tells you , You go have fun and keep being you .

[Yuff-Yuff]

I do understand that there must be alot of hard parts in the game !

Well... Just think about what you just said.
Basicly, you imagine an MMORPG to be coherent with Teamplay and Players supporting each other.
Well that's exactly what it is. You make yourself friends in the game, and put a group up, so you can overwhelm the trials together. You support each other, give one another tips, and stuff like that, so EVERYONE masters it. But most importantly: You do achieve it together
That's how it's meant to be played! You can't do that in the dungeonfinder, because you get thrown together with a bunch of strangers from different servers and regions. And, that too, is not the meaning of your post.

People with experience are nice, and willing to support the younger ones. You just have to look out for them, it's just a question of attitude. That's the way I found into MMOs too when I was just a "Scrub".

[DarkRain]

I think you misunderstood me.
Well, maybe I just expressed myself in the wrong way.
Of course, you're right with that.

All I'm saying is, that you can't expect to slay Titan with a DF Group.
It has been designed to be done with a group I described in my previous post.
The Dungeonfinder is an addition to that. But the Titan Hardmode itself was surely not made to just be a DF-Instance

Hope that clears it up.

I was just giving you a hard time

[Nayto]

Let's be real here - Titan is all about memorization of the patterns/moves, it's not really any form of "skill" unless you consider memorization a skill here.

It's a skill.

No This is a skill

Requires basic math and observation still... hence memorization, which is a skill within a skill. Ooooh!

No This is a skill

That's Patrick.