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  1. #1
    Player
    Seig345's Avatar
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    Seigyoku Cypher
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 66
    The people who try to skip having to shout for/form their own in-server Titan HM party, and then ragequit after 2 wipes aren't really helping the DF scene either...

    Winding up in a group with one or more players who take longer to figure things out than you do/did isn't a streak of "bad luck", it's a simple fact of what you're signing up for when you sign up for a DF PUG. You don't lose exp from dying, and the repair bills are laughable now. Even more so if you go to the small effort of farming a low level material that sells fast.

    In the end, you're far more likely to waste more time (yours and those in the pugs you're ditching) playing DF Pug roulette hoping you get put with an LS group that's DFing for 1 open slot that just happens to be the role you're playing (which sounds like asking to be carried if you ask me), than simply forming your own in-server party and actually sticking with it. otherwise, find an endgame LS or something.
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    "Ul'dah can keep their dusty markets, and their streets paved in silver and gold.
    Limsa Lominsa keep your pirates, and your ships covered in musty mold.
    My loyalty lies with Gridania, with the Moogles and the tree spirits of old." -The Forky Conjurer

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    Gucci_Charms's Avatar
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    Miley Cyrus
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    Hyperion
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    Lancer Lv 50
    DF anti-socials = loss.
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    RedAntares's Avatar
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    Vanilla Pancake
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 60
    I kinda agree with the OP, from what I've seen with most of the parties that fail at Titan it's because they aren't geared well enough to do enough DPS on heart phase or to survive the Tumults on phase 5. I've seen people enter with full normal AF, white acc or low ilvl wep as DPS.

    I even had some awesome parties that knew what to do, dodged everything and still failed because most of the DPS where with really low ilvl gear and couldn't kill the heart in time.
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    Estellios's Avatar
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    Yoso Carrasco
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 77
    I was DF'ing Titan for my PLD relic and I would just have some bizarre problems like having 2 DPS with relics, entire party up during heart phase, and STILL not managing to kill the damn thing. Whenever I would get a really really good group someone would start getting connection issues and constant red squiggle status and basically force us to reluctantly exit that run.

    My win was with a really good group and one iffy DRG that finally made it to the heart once they realized that maybe, just maybe, using Jumps that lock you in place in a fight where standing still kills you is not the best idea after you have been landslided 3 times because of it.

    But then I go do a Hydra for my friend and have a PUG Relic +1 PLD dying because they can't get out of White Breath and not moving Hydra out of the AOEs so melee can actually attack it, adds not dying even with two ranged relic DPS, and a relic WHM that never avoided Fear Itself in 5 attempts and several times ran away from hydra when it was being cast so everybody is probably getting carried and remaining terrible.
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    Last edited by Estellios; 12-03-2013 at 03:19 AM.

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    Raminax's Avatar
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    I was DF'ing Titan for my PLD relic and I would just have some bizarre problems like having 2 DPS with relics, entire party up during heart phase, and STILL not managing to kill the damn thing. Whenever I would get a really really good group someone would start getting connection issues and constant red squiggle status and basically force us to reluctantly exit that run.
    Story of my life at the moment. -_- (Except I haven't won yet.)

    Doesn't help that I just feel like a rag doll to beat up for Titan, either. In my desperation to feel useful, I created macros to announce the skill rotations for each phase and another to warn for incoming Weights/Plumes... yet people still die left and right to them. ;_;
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    Player Bizniztyme's Avatar
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    Solo Playa
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    Hyperion
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    Botanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    Story of my life at the moment. -_- (Except I haven't won yet.)

    Doesn't help that I just feel like a rag doll to beat up for Titan, either. In my desperation to feel useful, I created macros to announce the skill rotations for each phase and another to warn for incoming Weights/Plumes... yet people still die left and right to them. ;_;
    I'm not going to lie, people rarely talk so I never look at my chat in Primals or Dungeons when in combat
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    ZanderMist's Avatar
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    Za'nder Mist
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Bizniztyme View Post
    I'm not going to lie, people rarely talk so I never look at my chat in Primals or Dungeons when in combat
    Reason why I added <se.1> to my plumes macro
    And I even got blamed once because people said it was annoying and that they didn't need it (guess what? Didn't kill him that time) so yeah, that's the kind of parties you get joining DF Titan HM.

    Add to that the fact that 2 tanks isn't the optimal party composition, and the chances of winning drop really low.
    The sad thing is, PUGs are no better.
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    Shinonome Sanada
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    Phoenix
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    Conjurer Lv 92
    I have different <se.x> sounds/commands at the end of each macro as well. Most usually appreciate it, but well... Yeah. Hard to feel like it's being appreciated when you're getting your arse repeatedly kicked by Weight of the Land anyway, Mr. Black Mage.
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  9. #9
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    Olan Durai
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    Midgardsormr
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    Goldsmith Lv 50
    You basically need 2 all-star players who can also do damage to beat Titan (you need two because if you've only 1 and that guy gets Gaoled on phase 5 then you wipe). Most of the time you won't have these two guys, and even when you do most people don't realize they've a great thing and should keep trying, and instead opt for quitting and hope for the miraculous chance you'll join another DF group with more than 2 all-star DPS.
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    Doki Waku
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Many, many Titan merc groups disagree. 2 people can be carried, sometimes 3 if they do manage to survive to do some damage on the heart.
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