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  1. #41
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    Vydos's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Ronberku Vantarius
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 93
    I honestly find the method of OT grabbing hate and pulling the add across the room, a terrible tactic.

    It's much easier, safer, less confusing to have the MT simply move the part he has been tanking the entire time. Hate has been established by the MT, making it impossible for anyone to pull hate from it.
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  2. #42
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    Contemporary's Avatar
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    Character
    Aura Mhasi
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Flash just as the split happens -> tab to new Caduceus -> Spirit's Within -> Run/Shield Lob xx -> aggro
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  3. #43
    Player Risae's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Risae Nyan
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Denver_Max View Post
    I was OT and as soon as Cacedeus split i would pull it to where i was supposed to but WHM ALWAYS managed to get aggro back. also Eos would steal my aggro too. it was annoying.
    When the WHMs is able to steal hate from you then you're a bad tank. period.
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  4. #44
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    Asael's Avatar
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    Character
    Asael Drakengard
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    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    When the WHMs is able to steal hate from you then you're a bad tank. period.
    Trolling is an art of subtlety. Try harder bro.
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  5. #45
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    Churchill's Avatar
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    Character
    Chad Thunderkoch
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Harmonium View Post
    I never use rage of halone for pull him.

    I provoc + i throw my shield maybe 2 - 3 times, and then i begin to tank him. Very easy. You need maybe better stuff.
    So you Provoke the newly spawned mob that has no threat built on it in an attempt to gain threat on the target, you are using this as an example to show us that you know what you are doing and we should trust you. Is that a correct summation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risae View Post
    When the WHMs is able to steal hate from you then you're a bad tank. period.
    lol

    Quote Originally Posted by waldo View Post
    Sorry, your fault.. Your party was prob right. We all know it splits into around 66% health, that's when you should have rage of halone flashing on combo. If you can manage to just have it queued up and ready to use on the split you should be able to walk it about anywhere just b using flash.
    lol
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    Last edited by Churchill; 12-03-2013 at 06:19 PM.

  6. #46
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    zPanda's Avatar
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    Character
    Maximum Panda
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    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Armorer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Vydos View Post
    I honestly find the method of OT grabbing hate and pulling the add across the room, a terrible tactic.

    It's much easier, safer, less confusing to have the MT simply move the part he has been tanking the entire time. Hate has been established by the MT, making it impossible for anyone to pull hate from it.
    ^ This right here. Have the MT drag away the original , don't have the OT trying to drag away the split while trying to maintain/build hate as he drags across the arena - too easy for someone to pull hate off doing this method.
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  7. #47
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    Namko's Avatar
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    Character
    Star Breeze
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Join a different group. This is the hardest dungeon in game, no one gets it right first time. Find a patient and understanding company, it's going to make turns 2-5 more enjoyable too.

    It does take some practice but as others have said - CoS, Flash, Run while using Shield Lob and have Voke ready in case of a healer over curing. Will help to blow a def cool down while running.

    Or use the other method of MT moving the boss.

    Once you get it right it will never be a problem again, like every other scenario in this game.

    Chin up!
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  8. #48
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    WowSuchName's Avatar
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    Character
    Evana Fisher
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    Asura
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    Get MT to move the snake to other side and OT stay on initial stop.

    Snake has pre-split animation (it is water like effect), MT should signal it while OT prepare RoH combo.

    Your MT is probably too lazy to do other stuff and give all the burden to OT...... don't feel bad about it
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  9. #49
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    Elkwood's Avatar
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    Character
    Elkwood Davidson
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Denver_Max View Post
    fyi i am geared to the teeth with +1 and full DL. wasnt a gear issue. i'm guessing my problem may have been with the halone combo on deck before the split but ive never had to do that in the past
    As OT you should Have Fight or Flight ready at split, Flash, Halone, Circle, Spirits and use lob to pull him back If your not popping Halone immediately at the split yes mages getting hate as OT is your fault. If you are unable to get it down for whatever reason suggest you be main tank and have the other tank perform the OT duties.
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  10. #50
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    DarkB's Avatar
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    Character
    Dark Brilliance
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 80
    Check your accuracy, you might be missing combos, resulting in losing hate. (surprised no one told him in 6 pages).
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