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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomie View Post
    I had planned to play warrior from the get go.
    This is why the second class that I leveled was PLD. WAR was the more fun tank that I wanted to play, but PLD was explicitly better. I leveled a PLD so that, when it was needed, I could swap to PLD (since most of their gear is shared) and play WAR in any situation that it wasn't. It's what I still do: for t1, I almost always play WAR; for t2, I only play PLD when we need the extra silence; and, for t4, I pretty much have to play PLD because tanks get completely rocked in that fight and pretty much *require* the PLD CD suite.
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    Kytre Ashaer
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    Quote Originally Posted by abzoluut View Post
    I think this exactly is what bothers PLD's: too simple.. Leveling one myself now, going Coil soon with it. If it's true, it explains why suddenly (on my server) there are 2/3 WARs per faith group leveling one: it scares you how many flavor-of-the-month-people play this game..
    In all honesty, I've seen a lot of WAR in Fate groups for a while (long before the buffs were listed...heck, joined one as a WHM early last month and over half the group were WAR)

    But yeah, I best most of them now are PLD afraid to lose tanking spots. I'll be leveling PLD soon...and may grab one of the slots newly-opened by these people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitru View Post
    This is why the second class that I leveled was PLD. WAR was the more fun tank that I wanted to play, but PLD was explicitly better. I leveled a PLD so that, when it was needed, I could swap to PLD (since most of their gear is shared) and play WAR in any situation that it wasn't. It's what I still do: for t1, I almost always play WAR; for t2, I only play PLD when we need the extra silence; and, for t4, I pretty much have to play PLD because tanks get completely rocked in that fight and pretty much *require* the PLD CD suite.
    It's been racking my brain..how does Warrior tank double dread? Is there a different way that fight is supposed to go so that we don't need Hallowed Ground for that part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's been racking my brain..how does Warrior tank double dread? Is there a different way that fight is supposed to go so that we don't need Hallowed Ground for that part?
    They don't. The groups who double warrior Coil are geared WELL beyond what they need to be as a PLD.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoomie View Post
    They don't. The groups who double warrior Coil are geared WELL beyond what they need to be as a PLD.
    Well even with double Warrior who are super well geared, double dread will tear your face off if left unchecked for even a small amount of time. So does that team pretty much kill 1 dread before the second falls or something? I'm curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Well even with double Warrior who are super well geared, double dread will tear your face off if left unchecked for even a small amount of time. So does that team pretty much kill 1 dread before the second falls or something? I'm curious.
    No idea. The warriors are probably rockin 8800hp in a party + food and the healers/dps are gonna be insane. Its probably a matter of the Dread dieing super fast.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    Well even with double Warrior who are super well geared, double dread will tear your face off if left unchecked for even a small amount of time. So does that team pretty much kill 1 dread before the second falls or something? I'm curious.
    They don't do this. They each take a dread when you use two warriors.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vire View Post
    They don't do this. They each take a dread when you use two warriors.
    What do you do with the Rook, 2 spiders, knight and soldier that come with the second dread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vire View Post
    They don't do this. They each take a dread when you use two warriors.
    And how do they deal with having a dread at 2 stacks as tanking the spiders + a dread will result in them being eaten.

    This just seems like a massive cluster fudge. You'll have 1 regular dread, 1 dread +2, a knight, a soldier, and a rook between 2 warriors. How could they possibly split the aggro reliably meanwhile heal with healer threat meanwhile deal with dps who can't really stop that long due to the enrage.
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  10. #20
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    Kitru Kitera
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exstal View Post
    It's been racking my brain..how does Warrior tank double dread?
    My group never did double dread. We burned the p4 dreadnought while I tanked/kited the soldier/knight. The dread died by the time p5 happened and, when the whole group spawned, OT grouped them up (and fed the dread) while the DPS nuked down the rook. As soon as aggro was established, OT started kiting/jousting the soldier/knights and, as soon as the rook was dead, BLM threw down the AoE LB, rDPS started killing knights/soldiers, and mDPS started on the dread.

    For that strat, PLD is required as the offtank because it's pretty much impossible to establish threat on the final spawn without Hallowed Ground to give you 10 seconds of Flash spam. WAR can be the MT because it's just tanking a single dread at a time.
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