please Yoshi, give the dx11 version TXAA

[Sajittarius]

There hasnt been much talk about this form of AA (i saw 1 brief post about it when searching) but on the .5% chance that Yoshi reads this or is told of this post... lol.

Every game i have played that has TXAA looks awesome... only 3 games, but yea:
Assassins Creed 3+4 and Batman Arkham Origins.. they all have similiar specular lighting to FFXIV (a large source of aliasing), and with TXAA you see 0 jaggies... The Secret World (another MMO) was one of the first games to use TXAA and it looks great in screenshots (i havent actually played it, though).

[Black_Rose]

at this point i'm happy with anything besides FXAA.

[Shioban]

Aliasing still exists with TXAA.

So it's not /completley/ defeated, but for topology rendering from a distance, sure this could help.

DX11's transparency AA is what really makes it stand out.

[Diraco]

My GTX780 is waiting for supersampling AA!

[Velhart]

It would be nice in the next Live Letter along with talking about the PS4 version, go into at least some small detail on the DX11 version. Maybe they will, who knows.

[bigred978]

Hmmm maybe they are going to drop dx11 for Mantle. Would be funny.

[Kelg]

Use Nvidia control panel to force 32x CSAA. Problem solved.

[Shioban]

Use Nvidia control panel to force 32x CSAA. Problem solved.

You cannot force hardware based AA in Deffered Rending in DX9, even with the AMD/Nvidia control panel over-ride settings.
For this to work it would require some input from Square Enix unless we're given the rights and tools to do it ourselves.

The only explained entry i've seen on tricking hardware based anti-aliasing into working in a DirectX9 environment using deffered rendering is this one;

In DX9 it is impossible to create a multi-sampled G-buffer, and access separate samples independently in a pixel shader. To use multi-sampled render target as a texture, you need to resolve it, and you won't have any control over this process. So, I had to create a super-sampled G-buffer - a buffer with width and height multiplied by the factor of 2, which will give us SSAAx4.

And even in that scenario the effect given is very strange.

Another quote on why this doesn't work;

One more rather important disadvantage is that, due to separating the lighting stage from the geometric stage, hardware anti-aliasing does not produce correct results any more: although the first pass used when rendering the basic properties (diffuse, normal etc.) can use anti-aliasing, it's not until full lighting has been applied that anti-alias is needed. One of the usual techniques to overcome this limitation is using edge detection on the final image and then applying blur over the edges,[6] however recently more advanced post-process edge-smoothing techniques have been developed, such as MLAA[7] (used in Killzone 3 and Dragon Age 2, among others), FXAA[8] (used in Crysis 2, FEAR 3, Duke Nukem Forever), SRAA,[9] DLAA[10] (used in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II), post MSAA (used in Crysis 2 as default anti-aliasing solution). Although it is not an edge-smoothing technique, Temporal anti-aliasing (used in Halo Reach) can also help give edges a smoother appearance.[11] DirectX 10 introduced features allowing shaders to access individual samples in multisampled render targets (and depth buffers in version 10.1), making hardware anti-aliasing possible in deferred shading. These features also make it possible to correctly apply HDR luminance mapping to anti-aliased edges, where in earlier hardware any benefit of anti-aliasing may be lost, making this form of anti-aliasing desirable in any case.

Meaning, DirectX 10 onwards this isn't an issue, hence why this thread exists.

Hmmm maybe they are going to drop dx11 for Mantle. Would be funny.

I don't see Square Enix using anything that isn't tried and tested, they're not too fond of doing that.

[Sumii]

While I'm sure the super anti-aliasing / DX10 particles will be all so wonderful, isn't anyone a bit disappointed by the fact that they're not increasing the base resolution of those nasty low res textures? Yoshi already said specifically they're not increasing resolution at all and just adding on more 'layers of FX' so to speak. I'm sure no jaggies will be nicer, just sad that the characters won't have the same clarity/definition that they did in 1.x or better.

[Shioban]

While I'm sure the super anti-aliasing / DX10 particles will be all so wonderful, isn't anyone a bit disappointed by the fact that they're not increasing the base resolution of those nasty low res textures? Yoshi already said specifically they're not increasing resolution at all and just adding on more 'layers of FX' so to speak. I'm sure no jaggies will be nicer, just sad that the characters won't have the same clarity/definition that they did in 1.x or better.

When did he say they're not increasing the texture resolution?

Curious for a quote/source on that one.