Bound =/= Binding So why the heck can't we sell the item?

[Tupsi]

In 1.0, pretty much every piece of gear up to and including level 45+ stuff sold for practically nothing, because there was nothing stopping people from just turning around and reselling their leveling gear after they'd finished using it.

Gear in ARR is worth virtually nothing outside of 1-2 stars because of how ridiclous it is to get the materials for it. This is even with a BoU system in place. Try selling some HQ melded gear, you'll see that virtually no one will buy it (unless its for relic) and would settle for the usually -700% profit non-slotted NQ/HQ, so realistically, you can say it's because people wold rather choose their own melds, sure..but in 1.x it was a 'problem' because it was insanely easy to get materials for everything..I mean typical ants around Halatali dropped Crawler Cocoons for example and peacock ore was basically the "here's your consolation prize" item - Not to mention Red Corals? Yeah go PL some people on Orobons for a few hours.


You left out that crafting in 1.x was much, much more easier to do in terms of materials and the fact 99% of Craft leves supplied you the items needed for turn in and you just had to turn it in after making it. Atm there's not that much of a demand for crafters (even Yoshida admits this by wanting to make it relevant again) when dungeon drops from Aetherial to 'Green' is usually a step above the crafted HQ equivillent.

[Skivvy]

So either a lot of you never played XI, or I'm in the minority in thinking that there isn't a huge issue with selling used gear. This was the norm in XI (excluding of course r/ex items), and while certain items did of course fluctuate in price over time, it didn't seem to be an issue. There were always players who needed the lower gear (new players, new jobs, level sync, etc), and so prices on that stuff stayed relatively stable. Personally speaking, I was much more inclined in XI to actually purchase gear every few levels because I knew I wouldn't be taking a huge hit to my pocket. As it is now, I try to make a conscious effort to switch it out every 5-10 levels. FATES don't require much as far as gear, and the lower-end materia is not worth enough to give back the money you've spent.

With all that said, I do think it would be an issue if they tried to implement the option to sell used gear as this point. With the gear being so readily available from NPCs and quests, there would probably need to be a lot of tweaking going on to make it worth the while. Also, different game, etc. But I do prefer the option to sell used gear. :P

[Ryios]

Yeah, my bad, wrong thread.

[Felis]

I haven't tried but can we resell to NPCs?

There's NO difference between 1% bond and 100% bond. This is nothing more than a headache. I think I should have the freedom to at the very least donate equipment to new players.. instead I'm stuck with equipment costing nearly 300k gil.

It's ridiculous.

What you mean is spirit bound. Character bound is 0% or 100%. It is character bound in the moment you killed something with the gear equipped.
Spirit bound just show you if you can change the gear in materia or not.

[Reiterpallasch]

So either a lot of you never played XI, or I'm in the minority in thinking that there isn't a huge issue with selling used gear.

The economy in XI was downright atrocious because items didn't bind when used. Until you were at cap, leveling a profession was a loss the entire way, and a big one at that. The things you made sold for a fraction of what the materials cost. Absolutely everything you could make while leveling was sold at a loss, because there were years upon years worth of equipment flooding the market that thousands of players had made. Equipment that never left the economy unless you sold it to a vendor for even less. So what was left to make a profit on? Consumables. What happens when everyone makes consumables? No profit.

In XIV however, you can make a profit on almost anything while actively leveling, because all of the gear you make eventually leaves the system. Somebody buys it, it binds to them, and the only way they get rid of it is via vendor or materia. Either way it's gone for good, which creates a demand for more of those items, meaning prices stay in the profitable range only until there isn't anyone left to buy them.

[Seezur_Undies]

Ok, first i have to say: WO_OW!

Now that i got that out of my system, area you seriously complaining about something that is and has been in every MMO i have played? there is always some gear that is untradable, there is gear that is bind on pick up, bind on equip, here it happens to be on use. I have all 2* HQ Crafted gear, now i don't know if you know much about that gear, but its not cheap nor easy to make, and can only be fully bound in coil. that being said, i could farm myths til i got all my af+1 pieces and sell that. completely rendering the tome mats needed for that useless...

NOW, as for your bitch on the loss of gil by converting, I am going to assume that you are living at home with mommy and daddy for the simple fact that you would know that anything in the real world you buy, be it a house car what ever. any big investment decreases in value. aside from housing(depending on the market) you never get everything you paid for it out when you resell it.

Boy i hope this is a troll thread and you don't actually believe you have a valid complaint OP

[Tupsi]

The economy in XI was downright atrocious because items didn't bind when used.

Incorrect, the economy was perfectly fine until the RMT started basically handing out gil.

Until you were at cap, leveling a profession was a loss the entire way, and a big one at that.

Half true. If you went purely HQ? Yeah, you'll expect to be spending a lot of gil especially if the +1(or 2) gives you addition stats like the Alumine Set for example. Otherwise basic gear was very easy to come by and easy to buy for quite awhile until SE shifted focus purely to end-game players.

Absolutely everything you could make while leveling was sold at a loss

Kind of like ARR now thanks to undercutters. Let's not forget that ARR hands out all the gear you need through your career from Quests since gear in ARR has no worthwhile stats so everything is just basic gear crafted or not.

[Kewitt]

The market wards have there place. But there is no reason to equip your player in all gear from there.

crafted gear should be used to field gaps in dungeon gear,
Top level crafted gear should be equal to i90 gear with proper melds, Maybe even better as getting the best melds is almost harder then i90 items.

[sylvestew]

I think people are complaining b/c yes it was this way in every other MMO but it wasnt in FFXI or FFXIV 1.0. So the people who have played only these are use to the Final fantasy way and when Yoshi just up and decided to switch kind of threw us off since there was no reason to change it. Dont say economy or it was to give crafters a demand b/c economy still sucks now and you can tell crafters aren't the priority for them. Really think it was just to make it like all the other mmo's not with FF in the name.

[RynaultB]

300k gil worth of gear will more than likely be less than 100k in materia.

So not only am I losing gil but I'm also going to have to waste time, "spirit bonding" gear in order to convert it and sell it for scrub gil.

Not profitable at all.

If your doing that, then your doing it wrong. YOu can easily buy cheap high level gear to spiritbond or make your own to SB to sell.