[TO DEV TEAM] 80 gear and inventory slots..

[ispano]

Yep. We can only hope pushing the request something will change.

At least an efficent armoire, jee.. (why something tells me we will not be able to store ilvl70 / 90 myth / allagan gear on armoire chest during 2.1? )

For many, inventory management is an integral part of an RPG, single player or multiple. Also, iirc, they did say the Myth JOB gear(ie not the acc/belt) will be storeable. There was a post about what will be added, I'll see if I can find it.

EDIT: Here it is. http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...23#post1599023

I swore I saw a post or something mentioned about Myth Job gear, could be wrong or they could have meant the upcoming AF2. Or just misheard.

[Teon]

For many, inventory management is an integral part of an RPG, single player or multiple. Also, iirc, they did say the Myth JOB gear(ie not the acc/belt) will be storeable. There was a post about what will be added, I'll see if I can find it.

Wew, at least myth gear. Thanks for your reply
What about DL/80/allagan gear/elemental weapons/ elemental extreme weapons? No armoire?

Seriously, we will pay gils, cash, but GIVE US SPACE

[ViolanteViridis]

As someone maxing all the DoLs and DoHs, yes, a thousand times over. Please.
I would, however, prefer more retainer inventory slots than another retainer. Given the incoming housing items and PvP gear, doubling our current retainer space would be ideal.

And let us craft from our retainer inventories! I know some people would argue that it's immersion-breaking or unrealistic or whatever, but I'm okay with that since it would be such a vast QoL improvement.

Better yet, have these improvements require a quest. A really difficult series of quests themed after enhancing your retainer.

[Teon]

As someone maxing all the DoLs and DoHs, yes, a thousand times over. Please.
I would, however, prefer more retainer inventory slots than another retainer. Given the incoming housing items and PvP gear, doubling our current retainer space would be ideal.

And let us craft from our retainer inventories! I know some people would argue that it's immersion-breaking or unrealistic or whatever, but I'm okay with that since it would be such a vast QoL improvement.

Better yet, have these improvements require a quest. A really difficult series of quests themed after enhancing your retainer.

True. I forgot to mention pvp gear and housing items. I mean, hey..

[Doo]

For many, inventory management is an integral part of an RPG, single player or multiple.

Most rpgs don't like you level so many jobs on one character either. The lag when using retainers, company chest, etc is horrible as well. Also the way the market board is setup, players undercut you all day so your items don't sell quick making it harder to free up space.

Inventory needs to be increased and armory space as well!

[ispano]

Most rpgs don't like you level so many jobs on one character either. The lag when using retainers, company chest, etc is horrible as well. Also the way the market board is setup, players undercut you all day so your items don't sell quick making it harder to free up space.

Inventory needs to be increased and armory space as well!

The leveling of multiple classes and jobs is why we have the Armory Chest. And in almost ALL circumstances it is plenty adequate. The only time it really becomes an issue is if you have separate pieces for every single class AND job. This can happen if you have Weapons/Tools for every single Class and all the Relics for your Jobs. You'll be short 2 spaces for those.

Also, undercutting is normal. If people are undercutting to the point it's cheaper to vendor? Buy it and resell, their loss. But otherwise, normal undercutting, is normal. You don't get to control how much people pay, if others want to sell for less, or sooner.

[Lithera]

I don't personally experience much, if any, slowdown with the retainers, but the reason it can be a little slower to pull up retainer inventory etc. is because unlike your character inventory and armory chest, the retainer inventory is not already loaded before hand. When you log your character in it automatically loads up your entire inventory and armory chest because the game needs access to your gear and items dynamically for things like gear set swapping and use of items in crafting and from hot bars.

The retainer inventory is only loaded each time you call your retainer and your items need to be quickly delisted from the market board as well so the "lag" you experience with the retainer is the time it takes for your client to send the request to the server to open retainer inventory, the server to delist your marketboard items, and then the server to actually pull your retainer inventory from the database. The more stuff you have stored on the retainer the longer that will take especially if a LOT of people are pulling up their retainer inventory at the same time as a server can only retrieve so much information at the same time. This is likely why they're adverse to increasing the Armoire storage ability as whether it's retainer or Armoire it's pulling from the same database so it's an increase in server side load regardless.

Look at it this way. In FFXI you have immediate access ANYWHERE to 320 item slots if you include equipped gear. and that last 80 was only just added (likely because the declining server populations made the load bearable for the servers). RIght out of the gate in FFXIV we have immediate access to a combined 399 item slots. Your Mog House gave you access to an additional 240 slots (Safe, Locker, Furniture Storage). In XIV the two retainers combined are another 700 storage slots. This is on top of the fact that shards/cyrstals/clusters store in their own separate inventory, and this game doesn't require a million gear swaps.

What it really boils down to is for the player base there will NEVER be enough storage because as soon as you add more storage people will just packrat until they're full again and ask for more. From 8ish years playing FFXI I know this very well. People would use up the inventory on every alt available on their FFXI account plus sometimes completely separate accounts (for dual boxing) and whine for more inventory...

[Deathbyfuture]

I know......no one wants to hear another "bring back something I loved from 11" post, but seriously.......gobbie bags were the bestest and I wish someone would bring that back. They can make them really hard or complicated or expensive, whatever, I'd be willing to do them for more space in my inventory.

[Naunet]

What it really boils down to is for the player base there will NEVER be enough storage because as soon as you add more storage people will just packrat until they're full again and ask for more. From 8ish years playing FFXI I know this very well. People would use up the inventory on every alt available on their FFXI account plus sometimes completely separate accounts (for dual boxing) and whine for more inventory...

And this is why Certain MMOs are always increasing the available inventory and bank space in their games, as well as give means to expand inventory beyond base slots. It is not a strange thing to expect the same from XIV.

Why would you keep gear that you are never going to wear again? Just keep the best for each job and ditch the rest, it's not as if this game has situational gear. Personally I have most things at 50 and one of my 2 retainers is almost empty and used exclusively for selling things on the AH.

People store gear for more than just looks. Especially as we know a vanity system is coming, folk want to hold on to gear they have because they like the look of it. Though many people, myself included, would hold onto this gear regardless of the presence of a vanity system.

We're not all mechanical utilitarians, and it's ridiculous to expect people to be.

[Doo]

The leveling of multiple classes and jobs is why we have the Armory Chest. And in almost ALL circumstances it is plenty adequate. The only time it really becomes an issue is if you have separate pieces for every single class AND job. This can happen if you have Weapons/Tools for every single Class and all the Relics for your Jobs. You'll be short 2 spaces for those.

Also, undercutting is normal. If people are undercutting to the point it's cheaper to vendor? Buy it and resell, their loss. But otherwise, normal undercutting, is normal. You don't get to control how much people pay, if others want to sell for less, or sooner.

Multiple crafting classes with crafting gear that hasn't been spirit bounded yet. Do I throw them away? I still can use them when I level another craft, add that to all your DOW jobs, seasonal crap, and you can get over easily.

Undercutting is normal but in this game it's redonkulous.

No idea why players even defending how horrible the inventory system is in this game. I don't have to take that long sorting in any mmo I've played.