Titan HM tanked as WHM

[WellFooled]

I respect the fact that the OP got around the system and managed to pull it off, but it would be irresponsible to allow this to remain as is.

I'm curious, in what way? It seems to me Sebazy had to have exceptional gear (including VIT gear she had to buy/collect that a white mage wouldn't usually worry about), a unique stat allotment (which takes a considerable amount of grand company seals, probably twice over as I assume Sebazy won't want to remain speced for VIT permanently), a good grasp of the Titan fight, and a group of 7 other people willing to give an odd-ball, unpracticed, method a try.

I can't imagine many people are going to put forth all this energy to have a WHM tank Titan when arguable its easier and more reliable to let traditional tanks handle it...and even if they did, would it be game-breaking in any way if a few groups did?

[Kirsi]

Titan isn't hard especially when we've had 2+ months to get myth and coil gear. You can do titan with a minimum of 4 people alive the entire time.

The fight itself is the same repeated pattern over and over again until you beat him once the heart is dead. There isn't much to "memorize" nor is knowing when to cast stoneskin/virus/rain of death/eye for an eye special given all the time you have to do it before mountain buster.

I think what this does show is that some adjustments to heal over time hate generation probably need to be made considering that you can hold hate from highly geared dps as a white mage.

It's different, but some of the reactions to it in this thread are treating it as if you solo tanked Twintania as a warrior with one healer or something.

It was entertaining though.

[Nici]

It was entertaining though.

I've been reading some of the posts by other people in this thread and i agree with some and some i do not, i am sure the devs will watch this video and let's just leave it up to them to see if they will do anything or maybe nothing at all.

I think the main point of the OP's post was that "It was an entertaining video to watch", and its probably the main reason he posted it...that's what i see it as anyways...I thank you OP for posting such an entertaining video!.

[DenzelTaru]

I think what this does show is that some adjustments to heal over time hate generation probably need to be made considering that you can hold hate from highly geared dps as a white mage.

Yes and no.. Me and Sebazy are a part of the Attack on Titan LS of Ragnarok, i've done many runs with him both as healer myself and Tank and i can say that for most of the fight, even without medica II Sebazy is top or second from top on the hate table. even after using the ability that lowers enmity he can climb back up the table.. thats probably where this idea first came from (i was invited last minute for VIT boost)

The Yes being, maybe something should be done about hate generation.. the no being its not even regen that does it

I think the main point of the OP's post was that "It was an entertaining video to watch"

Exactly this, it was to do something not been seen before.. and the first thing said once titan died was "xD that was hillarious" it was done for fun, nothing more

[Kirsi]

The Yes being, maybe something should be done about hate generation.. the no being its not even regen that does it

Putting certain situations with weird hate generation aside (The initial encounter on titan and the one after the first jump/disposal node in turn 2) it is pretty hard to steal hate without using some kind of heal over time, its also part of the reason why SCH doesn't have nearly as many issues with hate generation in comparison to whm (size of heals being the other part). You're telling me that casting heal over time spells on an entire party does not cause hate generation problems? You should play WHM more.

Better yet, since regen doesn't cause hate generation issues try casting a medica 2 on the party before engaging a target in coil and see what happens.

[DenzelTaru]

You're telling me that casting heal over time spells on an entire party does not cause hate generation problems? You should play WHM more.

you misunderstood what i was trying to say.. i am not saying medica ii isnt a massive hate sandwich.. it is..

what i was saying is.. even in phase 1 and 2 before medica ii is used he can be at the top of the hate table above +1 DPS

[Steeled]

I can't imagine many people are going to put forth all this energy to have a WHM tank Titan when arguable its easier and more reliable to let traditional tanks handle it...and even if they did, would it be game-breaking in any way if a few groups did?

Nobody that needs Titan is going to let a whm tank it. The purpose of this video (probably) had nothing to do with any "benefit" to a whm tanking it (which mostly amounts to pretty good enmity and regens for all the melee, all the time. It is not "arguably easier" to let a tank with twice the effective health and cooldowns, it flat out is easier.

This was just a person having fun.

[WellFooled]

Nobody that needs Titan is going to let a whm tank it. The purpose of this video (probably) had nothing to do with any "benefit" to a whm tanking it (which mostly amounts to pretty good enmity and regens for all the melee, all the time. It is not "arguably easier" to let a tank with twice the effective health and cooldowns, it flat out is easier.

This was just a person having fun.

You'll get no argument from me there :P I was just wondering why Duelle considered it irresponsible for the game to allow a WHM to pull it off. Since it takes so much effort for so little gain, I was making the argument it doesn't matter if WHM can tank it like Sebazy demonstrated. Perhaps a slight derail on my part ><' as the video isn't really about that, just a side discussion that sprung up.