Anyone see this yet? 2 WAR Coil T5

[TirionCrey]

It was around the time that FFXI was setting up there test servers. So don't really have a link to give you sorry i just thinking that they may still be looking into it or maybe they wont do it.

I'm pretty certain I remember Yoshida saying he would like to have public test servers at some point as well. This doesn't mean there will be any for sure, but I remember him saying it's something he wants to do.

[Zenaku]

I'm pretty certain I remember Yoshida saying he would like to have public test servers at some point as well. This doesn't mean there will be any for sure, but I remember him saying it's something he wants to do.

Yep that why i want a dev team to see if that something there still looking into.

Also should get back on topic

[TaneshimaPopura]

@TirionCrey

Just tell me if you are all as you claim why are you still not done with Twintania. You are in a FC with people you know for 8 weeks, I got a picked up to Tank for the week only. You posting silly things like use Hallowed Ground to mitigate 1 Death Sentence instead of going inside the Conflagration. You show no credibility in your claims. And dude... everyone does the Limit Bar charge to 80% before DPSing as normal on Twintania to have Meteor on Snakes.

I'd throw you another cookie Limit Bar is increased via Actions performed, Death of enemy or player. Hence you are adviced to do NO DoT rotation during Limit Bar charge, yes I learned it during the week of Twintania.

If you live in a world where you live by assumptions instead of merit please do invite me there. I have a lot of wonderful ideas to implement cause no one believes it to fly in reality. You want to teach me things go ahead I'm all ears, but if your "knowledge/theory" collides with what I see in "Practical/Reality" I'm just going to reject it like Adam Savage and I emphasize on the SAVAGE part.

[Sheapy]

Wouldn't saccing a BLM to Twintania be a safer way of increasing your LB bar instead of throttling your DPS?

[Conna]

umm that group was geared out the a**hole.

[TirionCrey]

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Once again you more than show me that you got no clue what I was talking about. The HG (you did realize it's an abbreviation for "Hallowed Ground" right???...) Limit Bar trick has NOTHING to do with stopping DMG, DoTs etc...it's a trick to raise your limit bar to almost Level 1 w/o stopping DPS...but hey since you are such an awesome Tank, you prolly claim on your next post that you know what I meant...please just stop it. I told you why we haven't beaten Twintania yet...still after not even 6h total of attempts we are almost through Twister phase...you are just trying to talk back at me cause you feel threatened and try to undermine my credibility.

If your group beat Twintania on the first week you joined them, the whole group of you either practiced on Twintania for hours and hours, or everyone in the group besides you was already deep into the last phase and you were just replacing somebody on short notice and they would have beaten it anyway. Don't give me that shit that you as a person alone all of a sudden increased the groups performance by miles to get Twintania down, when they wiped for weeks before that...

Also please stop acting as if you're the most awesome player in the world and know everything about MT/OTing...when in all of your posts I see one wrong information after another. You clearly don't know about HG Limit Bar trick, you clearly didn't know that the parry stat affects both block AND parry. Also you throw stupid comments at me about HG being used at conflag phase. The HG trick I'm talking about is used while the adds are still being fought...further showing me you got no clue...throwing me a cookie...that is just cute...when I know more about LB building than you and apparently anyone in your group...lol

Before you claim you know anything there is to know about PLD and your awesome 9 years of HM raiding in other MMORPGs...make sure you know what you're talking about before you make yourself look stupid.

With this I'm done responding to you. You clearly feel like a superior being, while all of your comments show the exact opposite. Instead of willing to learn, you throwe around "I beat Twintania, I beat Twintania...so I'm right w/o question". People like you are what shows the difference between real hardcore min/max'ers and just the average hardcore MMORPG player who is just following orders. Have fun.

[Avalon_Albrook]

Tirion = 1
Taneshima = lol


(also: I had no idea about that HG limit bar trick... I never look to see what the LB does when popping it because, until recently when leveling up my first DPS class, the LB was never something I had to care about... if this is true, then this is supremely awesome...)

[TaneshimaPopura]

I am currently unable to test it but if what you claim is true. Then sure go ahead and use it but you still wouldn't want to use it as the MT in most circumstances, got a OT Paladin just get him to pop it if you wish not to throttle your DPS. And its not about sacrificing your BLM to get more LB its just that dealing with Weakness debuff is troublesome afterwards.

True I didn't know Parry affected Block rates. I did not do intensive test on it, and would like to read articles of detailed test regarding it. Please do show me so I come to my own conclusion. You said that you use HG just cause you expect it to have it during the last phase, now you are saying you use it to generate LB Bar. To which I say if you have a OT Paladin why not just get him to pop it? Next are you going to tell me you use a Warrior OT then? Cause based on your post history it does look like you use MT and OT Paladin.

You call yourself min/maxer who refuses to even use Gryphonskin accessories. Who are you kidding now?

[TirionCrey]

First you don't seem to know how the HG trick works. Since it's no big deal and I'm willing to share it's pretty simple. The MT pops HG when he is very low on HP(<2k, but the lower the better). The Healer doesn't top him off while HG is active, he keeps him at low HP, cause the game doesn't recognize him being invincible at that moment, the game counts every single hit that "would have killed" him towards the LB and increases it by a lot over the course of those 10 seconds. Nobody needs to stop DPSing, nobody has to hold back thus making the whole fight shorter. Just before HG would be off, the WHM tops him off real quick and everything goes on as usual.

The reason the OT isn't doing it (at least for our group) is cause we use the HG trick on him again while he is tanking Asclepius with stacks to build extra LB for Twintania later. Though we decide that on the fly, cause sometimes it's hard t time it right and at that point in the fight you don't wanna risk an unneccesarry wipe due to HG going off too late and the OT dieing. We let the OT tank the big snake, cause he will have all his CDs ready to make it easier on the healers.
If Hg would be ready again for the OT by the time the big snake is being fought, we would let the OT use HG on the adds at the beginning as well, but it's not so we safe it for that.

PS: I never said I refuse to use Gryphonskin accessories. I have them and they are melded cause I'm a min/maxer I was just stating in the other topic that those alone shouldn't make it a guarantee for the OT to have to hold back on Twintania at some point cause he would rip off hate from the MT.

At this point I think we should just drop the topic overall. We are bashing back and forth and this is not gonna lead to anything anyway. Unneccesarry tension and I think we can both agree that everyone has their fair PoV on things.

[TaneshimaPopura]

But don't you really think that it is a really risky prospect just to get that LB. I meant even by using the DPS throttle you are killing it around 11 minutes 30 seconds range if you manage to handle 4 hit Fireballs Conflagration, which in itself I do believe is sort of a DPS/Enrage timer check. Going all those measure just for something like a Speed Kill is fine, but for normal weekly clears wouldn't it be better to just stick to being safe and steady?

The OT in Str Accessories in Sword Oath vs a MT in Vit Accessories Shield Oath DPS throttle always happen no matter what. However, this could be a neat trick under the sleeves to cause a LB 3 raise if you have someone capable of activating in during a certain wipe.