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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd View Post
    I think most people just mean they want to buy directly from item search list and have item delivered into their inventory or mail box. I don't think they actually mean they want to blind bid on items.
    Yep. This should be pretty obvious to anyone who's not blindly defending the Market Ward system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Yep. This should be pretty obvious to anyone who's not blindly defending the Market Ward system.
    Heres the backside of the argument then. The only feature that is technically unique to a Auction House are Blind and Timed Bidding. When someone says they do not want an Auction House they really do mean they do not want Timed or Blind Bidding.

    This whole thing is a problem with Nomenclature. If all the features besides a Timed or Blind Bidding were implemented it still wouldn't be an auction house and all those features can be implemented into the market ward.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    When someone says they do not want an Auction House they really do mean they do not want Timed or Blind Bidding.
    You might have a point there if it weren't for those same people who "say they do not want an Auction House" to wax emotional about the endless possibilities of an NPC zombie middle-man server-crashing retainer who adds immersion and fun and is one of the only things standing between the treasured uniqueness of this game and WoW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Heres the backside of the argument then. The only feature that is technically unique to a Auction House are Blind and Timed Bidding. When someone says they do not want an Auction House they really do mean they do not want Timed or Blind Bidding.

    This whole thing is a problem with Nomenclature. If all the features besides a Timed or Blind Bidding were implemented it still wouldn't be an auction house and all those features can be implemented into the market ward.
    If by Timed or Blind bidding you mean that I have only 5 days to sell my item before it is returned to me then you are correct. I want no parts of it. I would rather be taxed by selling something and not for putting it on sale everytime. I do not know how much Gil I have lost because the manipulators forced me to resell things over and over again
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizon View Post
    If by Timed or Blind bidding you mean that I have only 5 days to sell my item before it is returned to me then you are correct. I want no parts of it. I would rather be taxed by selling something and not for putting it on sale everytime. I do not know how much Gil I have lost because the manipulators forced me to resell things over and over again

    "Timed Bidding" is when you put an item up for 5 gold and set it to stay up for 7 days and then people bid more and more for it till the 7 days is up.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rentahamster View Post
    Yep. This should be pretty obvious to anyone who's not blindly defending the Market Ward system.
    THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS.

    (plus pricing history)

    If it helps, don't call it an auction house! Call it something else since it's not a real auction. I don't care, I want the old FFXI auction system back (gods, never thought I'd say that).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutriss View Post
    THIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIS.

    (plus pricing history)

    If it helps, don't call it an auction house! Call it something else since it's not a real auction. I don't care, I want the old FFXI auction system back (gods, never thought I'd say that).
    the FFXI system was a Blind Bidding system that allowed for True Exploitive Undercutting to take place (instead of economic Undercutting which is a normal part of economics) that was easily and always exploited by the RMT's. As well as the Item Price History.
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    I have to thank Square-Enix for the amazing job they have done recreating Final Fantasy XIV from Scratch. Especially the inclusion of Missing Genders which we petitioned for in good faith. This was proof to us players that the Developers are truly Sympathetic to our requests and that being honest and vocal can pay off with the amazing characters we have who are Female Roegadyn, Male Miqote, and Female Highlanders. Thank You SE, Thank You Community Team, Thank You Yoshi-P.

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    We don't need an AH imo, it's a waste of dev resources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Molly_Millions View Post
    We don't need an AH imo, it's a waste of dev resources.
    Trying to fix the market wards, which involves fixes to the server hardware, server software, graphics engine, and overall programming code optimization, is an even bigger waste of dev resources.

    cost/benefit analysis (can I have it?)
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