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    I honestly don't understand, I am really not a min max hardcore pro player but a bigger heal will always be better when both consume the exact same MP and are casted at the same speed
    Theoretically, they're not cast at the same speed. That's the key point of my argument you skipped over.

    You gave 700 and 1k as theoretical comparative Physick numbers. In order for A to overtake B, you need to cast 1.5x as quickly. When that happens, you have a lot more versatility at your disposal. It comes with tradeoffs, but there's more to the healing game than MAI HEALS AM ARE BE THE BIGGEREST.

    The point of the argument was to emphasize thresholds of effectiveness rather than a static 30 mnd which really doesn't matter in 99.999% of cases one way or the other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    Theoretically, they're not cast at the same speed. That's the key point of my argument you skipped over.
    Except your argument holds as much weight as Spell Seed does. My Physicks and Adloquiums reliably do 850 and 650 respectively on average while solo and 1k and 750+ on a full party and can crit for 1.4k+ and both take 1.94s to cast. I could use Selene if I wanted to lower it to 1.84s and if I'm really really lucky she might just hit a crit heal and trigger the 20% Spell Speed trait and lower it down to 1.74 for a grand total of 4 seconds, oh and if I had stacked Spell Speed on Vanya I could get it down to 1.70 on top of everything I guess? Mind you Selene's ability lasts 30s and has a 60s second recast and the crit fairy heal trait only has a 20% chance of triggering if a crit even hits, so most of the time casting speed will be 1.94s or 1.90s, I guess 1.88~ if I go full Spell Speed Vanya?

    I guess your hypothetical faster but lower healing might work in a game that allows that, except it doesn't exist in this game at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roris View Post
    I guess your hypothetical faster but lower healing might work in a game that allows that, except it doesn't exist in this game at all.
    Holy **** on a cracker your reading comprehension cannot possibly be this bad.

    The point of the argument was to emphasize thresholds of effectiveness rather than a static 30 mnd which really doesn't matter in 99.999% of cases one way or the other.
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    Last edited by Borfin; 11-28-2013 at 06:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borfin View Post
    The point of the argument was to emphasize thresholds of effectiveness rather than a static 30 mnd which really doesn't matter in 99.999% of cases one way or the other.
    Out of two SCH who theoretically have the exact same level of skill, the full MND SCH will be the most effective, that's all there is to it. A bad SCH with 30 less MND will do even worse, a bad SCH with full MND will still be bad. A good SCH with full MND will be at their best, a good SCH who gimped themselves on MND might still be good but they could always be even better, if someone enjoys both SMN and SCH they can't do that unless they spend the seals each time.

    Yet you keep coming up with these silly things like faster but weaker heals when it's physically impossible to do in the game just to defend bad game design, I guess that's what means to love Final Fantasy.
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