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    Quote Originally Posted by Songkla View Post
    Since you mentioned the DG mechanics, please tally up all the red shit that brds have to run out of in all the dungeons. You could probably count all the times with one hand.
    Starting at Stone Vigil (because that's where Tomes start):
    SV Boss 1: Have to run behind him when he does his room-wide aoe (Total: 1)
    SV Boss 2: Have to play keep-away with the tornadoes, or you die (2)
    SV Boss 3: Have to run out of the ice patches, and the mid-air ice patches, and the ice beams where he rakes across the room. (5)
    DD Boss 2: Black pools on the ground and lasers of doom (7)
    AV Boss 2: Eye of the Beholder, laser eye, and 1,000-tonze swing (10)
    WP Boss 1: Moldy Phlegm (11)
    WP Boss 2: chase sequence/"target" (12)
    AK Boss 1: Void Fira, Rockslide, center golem's attacks (15)
    AK Boss 2: I'll combine the black goo's into one, gnat aoe if they spawn/live that long (17)
    AK Boss 3: Terror Eye, Imminent Catastrophe (19)
    Turn 1: ADS laser, Cad's slime spawns if you're not the spawner, Cad's spit attacks (22)
    Turn 2: laser, fire attack. .. probably missing one or two that qualify (24)
    Turn 5: Twister, Divebomb, pools of fire (27)
    Ifrit: Charge, Plumes, Eruption if your stunner is failing for whatever reason (29) (giving you the Eruption, because it's uncommon nowadays)
    Garuda: teleport-AOEs, tornadoes, Slipstream from the adds if they survive and you're tanking them (31)
    Titan: Weight of the Land, Bombs, Landslide (34)
    Hydra: Fear Itself, fire/ice pools (36)

    So, I'm counting 36 different mechanics just in the relic chain and Tome-producing dungeons. Do the melee have to deal with these and more? Sure. But it's flat out dishonest to say that the mechanics BRD has to dodge can be counted on one hand.

    Edit: To respond to the issue of "LF2 BRDs for Coil," the best solution would be to educate people and let them know that there's no reason you need two BRDs. Seriously, a second BRD is half-wasted, and could be better spent with pretty much any other DPS class.
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    Last edited by Viridiana; 11-27-2013 at 08:36 PM.

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    Mia Lina
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viridiana View Post
    So, I'm counting 36 different mechanics just in the relic chain and Tome-producing dungeons. Do the melee have to deal with these and more? Sure. But it's flat out dishonest to say that the mechanics BRD has to dodge can be counted on one hand.

    Lots of the things on that list don't count. Please, when have you actively had to dodge center golem attacks, Eye of terror, Cad's split attacks, imminent catastrophe, rockslide, etc. If you do, then your doing something wrong. And more then half of them you can still dps while dodging. Tell me, what other class can do that?

    Also, trying to educate people about not needing 2 bards, you go do that, and let me know how amazingly successful that turns out to be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songkla View Post
    Lots of the things on that list don't count. Please, when have you actively had to dodge center golem attacks, Eye of terror, Cad's split attacks, imminent catastrophe, rockslide, etc. If you do, then your doing something wrong. And more then half of them you can still dps while dodging. Tell me, what other class can do that?

    Also, trying to educate people about not needing 2 bards, you go do that, and let me know how amazingly successful that turns out to be.
    AHHHHH I understand now, you are saying that u don t have to dodge actively most aoes! that explains a lot! or are u trying to say only Bards ...coz they are so good... don t have to dodge anything actively? i don t get it
    On a serious note,as far as i know Dragoon and MonK don't have to stop damaging when they are dodging aoes, except if they are centered on the boss like repelling canons, and that is a 2 sec interruption, time for u to run out and in. Theoretically even BLM don t have to completly stop their dps while avoiding damages.
    Once again if u feel like bards are so much better, i think u should definitly level one and make it ur main.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Songkla View Post
    Lots of the things on that list don't count. Please, when have you actively had to dodge center golem attacks, Eye of terror, Cad's split attacks, imminent catastrophe, rockslide, etc.
    I have to dodge Eye of Terror on average 2 times per AK, because I'm killing the adds by myself. Rockslide, same thing, I'm likely tanking the add. Cad's spit attacks are a constant of that fight; if you aren't dodging them, your healer hates you. Imminent Catastrophe I dodge 2-3 times a fight usually, because I don't just sit in the boss's circle. Also, I counted, and about 25 of the things I listed can be dodged without leaving melee range.

    But please, do go on.
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