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  1. #11
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    Xystic's Avatar
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    Belcross Panda
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    Famfrit
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    Most of the times, the RMT spammers are lvl 1 and can't have retainers if I'm not mistaken. I wasn't able to get my retainers until I progressed to some point the game. They also get banned quickly so they just continuously remake lvl 1's to spam you. So blacklisting them makes no difference even if it linked to their retainers, if they even had any.

    Logically, the bots farming will funnel the gil to a few secure sources which don't spam people anyways. Black listing the bots would be pointless.

    Adding this feature is only going to get it abused. If the server doesn't like someone, we could just black list him/her. Sad but true.
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    Wazabi Theo
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    That's an interesting take...didn't manage to see it that way.
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    Darkwerk Dystopia
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    True a lot if not most spammers might be lvl 1. I know in the case of my 2 examples it would have helped most likely . Maybe the idea will give someone a batter idea if not being the solution.Idk.
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  4. #14
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    Coleo Softpaw
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    Masamune
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    the only way for players to remove bots (for now) from MB is by hunting the farming bots (report them), however they can transfer the farmed goods to other char for storage and selling...attacking their farmers can reduce their income, we need sentinels to watch for BOT omg >.<

    RMT bot have infiltrate and become a part of economy in this game, every crafting use shards and they have crytal farming bots all over the server. and most ppl that craft buys their shards and contributing to RMT. yesterday i found a FC of RMT farmers all lvl 50, some maybe spammer with low lvl, i dont know what SE can do to stop them and prevent the game economy from collapse.

    however, its not so hard, ppl just need to farm crystal for themselves again
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    Last edited by Impurrrsive; 11-26-2013 at 03:28 PM.

  5. #15
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    Anhea Tayuun
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    I have said it before and will say again make Shard's,Crystal's,Cluster's Untradable.
    Problem Solved until they start to mine other materials and crash that market
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  6. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syamic View Post
    I have said it before and will say again make Shard's,Crystal's,Cluster's Untradable.
    Problem Solved until they start to mine other materials and crash that market
    This forces people to play a disciple of land. This would anger a ton of players having to level a DOL just to play a DOH. You can't play a DOH, AT ALL, without having a DOL.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xystic View Post
    This forces people to play a disciple of land. This would anger a ton of players having to level a DOL just to play a DOH. You can't play a DOH, AT ALL, without having a DOL.
    Then i would suggest the people that only want to level DOH and not level DOL are the one's buying the shards from the Market Board and thus feeding the RMT seller's.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syamic View Post
    Then i would suggest the people that only want to level DOH and not level DOL are the one's buying the shards from the Market Board and thus feeding the RMT seller's.
    We need to understand that its not only shards that RMT are making money off of. Locking them out of shards will just shift them from that market to the next one. The vicious cycle repeats every time we lock them out of a certain market.

    Your wanting to prolong or stop their advance but it does nothing of that sort. At the same time, specifically for shards, we force people to play DOL in order to play DOH thinking that we have prolonged or stopped the RMT's. When in reality that doesn't do anything of that sort. As long as something can be crafted or gathered and sold, RMTs will exist. As long as their is a market/economy in any MMO they will feed RMT sellers.

    Your approach is a double negative with no positive gain.

    You could possibly argue that it would be one less market they could be in but at the same time, that means, they now have more bots to farm other markets, dropping the value of every other item. For every item we make account bound, we can expect the value of everything else to continue to drop as they farm an overwhelming surplus of goods. Again this is another negative.

    It would be wise to look into the situation carefully before suggesting ideas. Its a good concept on the outside but the internal design is too flawed. A multi-billion dollar industry could easily figure out these points, cause if they couldn't, they wouldn't be a multi-billion dollar industry today.
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  9. #19
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    +1

    /10 char
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  10. #20
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    Anhea Tayuun
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    That is why i said "Problem Solved until they start to mine other materials and crash that market" in my original Post
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