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    Xerius's Avatar
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    Xerius Falconbridge
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    Exodus
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    RNG Progression Wall

    I know that the devs have said before that they won't be introducing a token system for the HM primal fights but I really think they should reconsider. I'm going in on over 50 Ifrit fights and I've still yet to see the book for my SCH even drop. I know that its a statistical anomaly but it kind of limits my progression onward because the only other way to get an ilvl 55+ weapon besides the primals is to buy the crafted ones.
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    Vil'a Aryanya
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    I know that the devs have said before that they won't be introducing a token system for the HM primal fights but I really think they should reconsider. I'm going in on over 50 Ifrit fights and I've still yet to see the book for my SCH even drop. I know that its a statistical anomaly but it kind of limits my progression onward because the only other way to get an ilvl 55+ weapon besides the primals is to buy the crafted ones.
    50 Ifrit fights? You can get the i80 book for 900 philo tomestones by completing the relic quest. At your equipment level, I'm guessing you might be having trouble with mp in Titan post-heart. So leave all the healing up to till the final phase to the other healer. Then between ethers and Ballad, you should be able to avoid running out of mp in the final phase. Don't use adloq, drop virus and eye-for-eye before mountain buster when you have them. Drop sacred soil after gaolslide, before the cleave, and it should stay around long enough to mitigate cleave, mountain buster, and the stomps. Use your other two stacks for Lustrate, one each after each mountain buster. Spam physick/embrace on the tank when you're doing nothing else(Before and after Gaol, after Weight of the Land while the bombs are dropping, especially after the bombs explode before the second Weight of the Land). Do this, and there's no reason you couldn't keep the party up solo in the post-heart phase even with a 4x book(I'm assuming you're using the Wanderer's Palace book(i55) or the i55 crafted book though). Don't overdo it with the Succors...just one before stomps, as necessary during, and no healing a non-tank outside of those times.

    It took me some 20 exilerating Titan attempts before I passed it. But the parties these days tend to be more experienced and with i90 people mixed into the CF queues(looking for the most hardcore challenging experience in the game) I wouldn't expect it to take that long.

    Wait...you're not doing 50 ifrit runs because some idiot told you it would be irresponsible to do Titan without a primal weapon, are you? Because it really really isn't necessary.
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    Last edited by Cryvil; 11-26-2013 at 03:58 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raineer View Post
    Look everyone, Square has a very clear manner of defining your party role - it is your limit break - which can only be used in a party.

    Since my LIMIT BREAK is a healing action, I will heal and you just need to deal with that.

    Signed,
    Bard

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    Johnny Dangerously
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    I'd buy a Titan way before I'd do 50 fuckin ifrits. Take a step back and evaluate your life, son.
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    Ketsu Wotaberu
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    50 Ifrit fights? You can clear Titan with GC weapon or WP weapon (which are both iLvl55).
    Don't blame RNG for a progression wall that doesn't exist.
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    Neon Sea
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    You ever been in a Titan party when everyone had GC weapons?
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    Infrared Laser
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    Excalibur
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    Fisher Lv 49
    Quote Originally Posted by Xerius View Post
    I know that the devs have said before that they won't be introducing a token system for the HM primal fights but I really think they should reconsider. I'm going in on over 50 Ifrit fights and I've still yet to see the book for my SCH even drop. I know that its a statistical anomaly but it kind of limits my progression onward because the only other way to get an ilvl 55+ weapon besides the primals is to buy the crafted ones.
    Have you considered taking 2 hours of your day to complete the SCH relic quest?

    If you choose to do so, let me suggest also acquiring the SCH Relic +1 while you're at it. Only 4 hours and 30 minutes of your time in WP clears over the course of 8 days is required (Post 2.1).

    Feel free to spend time with your friends and loved ones for the 7 days, 19 hours, and 30 minutes you have to relax.
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    Urielparadox's Avatar
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    Smily Kweh
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    Maduin
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    weekly resets happen every Monday that would be 7 days Mr troll. Why would someone farm an ifrit weapon to fight garuda? idk you were lied to and ppl don't pay enough attention to the actual stats on wpns. No you don't need ifrits wpn the diff. btw gc and ifrit is 1 dmg and for blm ifrit was about 5 dps damage gain don't waste your time farming it. Garudas wpn will make a diff. and is one to farm, but I am 0/42 on seeing blm in garuda. 1/30 on ifrit(after I got my relic). If an all i55 GC wpn wont kill heart phase, neither will an all Ifrits team. Here is the problem I usually see no one wears all 4 pcs to get the stat boost. The gc accessories tend to be really good and form twin addler being a blm most of those accesories were the strongist until ak/dl. So if your using your gc wpn and not getting the bonus yeah its going to be weaker because your missing a whole + mid number stat(determination +10(or more)in a several cases) which is a huge loss.
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    Lil Muffins
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    This is something known as luck.

    Keep at it! Even a 1/100,000,000 has a chance of acquiring an item if you do it long enough!
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    Alkimi Asura
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    Don't worry. Since you've complained on the forums about it, it will drop on your next run. That's just the way it works.
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    Mariya Shidou
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeonC View Post
    You ever been in a Titan party when everyone had GC weapons?
    But I've been in a Titan DF with 1 healer and 3 dps post heart... and won.
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