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  1. #11
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    MithrasInvictus's Avatar
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    Character
    Mithras Invictus
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    So positioning a boss in order to make the lives of the rest of the party, especially the healer, a little bit easier makes tanks stupid? Ok there, bud.
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    When the world was young, the Sun bestowed upon me his crown; always will I light your darkest hour.

  2. #12
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    Onyxys's Avatar
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    Character
    Ulric Delkin
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 81
    Lifes? Is this boss so terrible? I dont think so. As I sad- I kill this boss with co-clans without moving and we are not a SUPER speed runners. 20 minutes for us is fine, so, I can think, that all other tanks and healers are just... bad players
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  3. #13
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    talisein's Avatar
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    Character
    Mikumiku Dance
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Another question- why need to avoid this cone aoe? I play monk and always take debuff of this attack for not losing DPS. Some heal and Im fine
    If you avoided the attack your healer could keep DPSing themselves. That boss is weak enough that just keeping regen on him is enough for most of the fight.
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  4. #14
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    Character
    Nyabrys Kirijou
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Botanist Lv 50
    All I see here is bad monk crying about not being able to attack for the first 5 seconds of a fight, and he's losing SO MUCH precious dps because of those 5 seconds.
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  5. #15
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    Delorean's Avatar
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    Character
    Altani Dotharl
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Onyxys View Post
    Lifes? Is this boss so terrible? I dont think so. As I sad- I kill this boss with co-clans without moving and we are not a SUPER speed runners. 20 minutes for us is fine, so, I can think, that all other tanks and healers are just... bad players
    I find it highly amusing that a Monk, who, a few months ago was asking why they could not roll on equipment with Dexterity and complaining that Monks are too weak and needed an adjustment, is now calling other players bad.
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  6. #16
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Character
    Celenir Istarkh
    World
    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Start of fight: takes 3 seconds to position. Lost dps is negligible.

    Mid fight: a competent tank will keep the boss there and avoid the poison. When the boss moves, it's because the ranged players stand too far away, so the boss has to move in range for his aoe attack.

    So complain to the ranged players, not to the tank.

    And 20 minutes is the super low end of what can be called a speed run. You gain bragging rights after all your runs are 10~12 minutes.
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  7. #17
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    Lex_Luger's Avatar
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    Character
    Lex Luger
    World
    Hyperion
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    This is done for speed and efficiency, simple. You not getting hit means the WHM can keep nuking in cleric stance and not have to cure or leech you. The fastest speed runs all involve a strat that involves everyone avoiding AoE. Is it a huge difference? No, but if you're aiming for sub 10 minute runs, its a good idea.
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  8. #18
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    Zfz's Avatar
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    Character
    Celenir Istarkh
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    Atomos
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Ah sorry, ignore part about time. Misread your post there.

    On mobile now so no edit function.
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  9. #19
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    Character
    Ash Smokespear
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 80
    This must be some kind of weird troll? Can't see why anyone would make a thread about the first boss in Wanderer's otherwise.
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  10. #20
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    Character
    Kori Fleming
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 80
    You only tank him at the line if it's a speed run. If it's just a normal run it takes all of 3 seconds to position him in the corner. Chill.
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