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    Quote Originally Posted by Shura View Post
    Was it not mentioned recently that there would only be 1 job per class, i forgot where i saw it, maybe it was the Q&A but i really doubt that SE is gonna give archers shield or conj and thm a axe. The whole reason the job system is getting added is to limit classes and their roles in pt, unlocking all jobs to all classes is doing the opposite.
    The way I read it was "each class only unlocks one job" not "each class can only use one job" or "each job can only be used by one class."
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    The way I read it was "each class only unlocks one job" not "each class can only use one job" or "each job can only be used by one class."
    The text from the blueprint reads: "Quests to unlock each job will become available once you have reached a certain rank in the corresponding class." I'm unaware of any more recent information.

    This means that each job is unlocked by only one class. It does not mean that there is only one job per class.

    The word "corresponding" only refers to unlocking the job. It is unclear whether this also means jobs are only equippable by a particular class, some classes, or all classes. Hence the rampant speculation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Frebaut. Jobs are NOT classes Your class Doesn't BECOME the job. Once you unlock the Job you equip it just like any other skill. It then gives you access to special skills. They said specifically not to think of them as advanced classes but if they are 1-1 locked thats all they are.

    If your a Pug you can't be a Con. But if your a Pug you can Equip Monk. The problem is Monk isn't always limited to hand to hand in past final fantasies. Just like White Mage isn't always limited to Wands/Staffs (Actually it normally assigned Hammers in the older FF's).

    Please stop thinking Jobs and Classes are interchangeable with each other when they are independent and should be independent of each other.
    Did you even read my post or skim through it?? Why don't you stop looking like an *** and read what i wrote. Its funny i said the same thing and your disagreeing with me. The FFXIV community are idiots. Even after i posted what the BATTLE is going to be Via the Interview/post the DEV game himself you guys still are arguing what its going to be. Read the dam thing yourself and actually, i mean actually comprehend what it says.

    Also you r Class does Become YOUR JOB. Read the dam Producers notes. Idiot.
    Also Classes are the job your going to be. I have no idea what Class is tied to what Job. I do agree with you that PUG Class would be the Monk JOB. Given that it is Hand to Hand.

    Hay show me where i wrote Jobs and classes would be interchangeable??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lerris View Post
    The text from the blueprint reads: "Quests to unlock each job will become available once you have reached a certain rank in the corresponding class." I'm unaware of any more recent information.

    This means that each job is unlocked by only one class. It does not mean that there is only one job per class.

    The word "corresponding" only refers to unlocking the job. It is unclear whether this also means jobs are only equippable by a particular class, some classes, or all classes. Hence the rampant speculation.
    That's what I'm trying to say D:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frebaut View Post
    Did you even read my post or skim through it?? Why don't you stop looking like an *** and read what i wrote. Its funny i said the same thing and your disagreeing with me. The FFXIV community are idiots. Even after i posted what the BATTLE is going to be Via the Interview/post the DEV game himself you guys still are arguing what its going to be. Read the dam thing yourself and actually, i mean actually comprehend what it says.

    Also you r Class does Become YOUR JOB. Read the dam Producers notes. Idiot.
    Also Classes are the job your going to be. I have no idea what Class is tied to what Job. I do agree with you that PUG Class would be the Monk JOB. Given that it is Hand to Hand.

    Hay show me where i wrote Jobs and classes would be interchangeable??
    Your class is not your job. Your class is your weapon, your job is your role in combat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Yeah.

    Archer. > If wearing Shield Archer Range and Damage are decreased.
    Unless they implement 1 handed crossbows you won't even have to address this issue.

    Several jobs in FFIV used bows and arrows (WHM, PLD, SMN I think) which did not affect their ability to play their role. But to take the paladin example, if you're not able to equip a shield because you are playing with a 2 hands bow, you reject a whole set of shield specific defensive abilities that probably will not make you a desirable paladin in a pt, but that could make a decent and fun combination for solo or specific roles, as pulling and crowd control idk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northernsky View Post
    Unless they implement 1 handed crossbows you won't even have to address this issue.

    Several jobs in FFIV used bows and arrows (WHM, PLD, SMN I think) which did not affect their ability to play their role. But to take the paladin example, if you're not able to equip a shield because you are playing with a 2 hands bow, you reject a whole set of shield specific defensive abilities that probably will not make you a desirable paladin in a pt, but that could make a decent and fun combination for solo or specific roles, as pulling and crowd control idk.
    I'm pretty sure you can at least use a buckler with a bow.
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    I just realized something sad

    The "each class unlocks one job quest" thing means there's not going to be very many mages D: 2 at most with the current classes....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cairdeas View Post
    Your class is not your job. Your class is your weapon, your job is your role in combat.
    How do you become that Job> Oh ya leveling up that class that unlocks the Actions to become that job. hay wait a min oh ya thats what i said from the get go...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...form-Blueprint Tyr and read this again and then rethink it. Look uder the JOB. part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frebaut View Post
    How do you become that Job> Oh ya leveling up that class that unlocks the Actions to become that job. hay wait a min oh ya thats what i said from the get go...

    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...form-Blueprint Tyr and read this again and then rethink it. Look uder the JOB. part
    It doesn't matter if you are Monk, if your still equipping a Hand to hand weapon your STILL a Pugilist. Monk doesn't magically make you not a Pugilist anymore. They are Independent. Not Replacements.
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