LOL@ Yoshi P's response to why Coil raiders should do Crystal Tower

[Allyrion]

The way I see it, CT was delayed and they changed direction with how it works.

CT is basically a snazzy way to do gear catch up for casual players. Hardcore players will still be able to enjoy it for vanity gear and just the experience, but this patch is just not aimed at progression.

This doesn't have much to do with SE putting things in the wrong order. It's really just about if you think Coil is worth being the raid content for the next 3 months.
I'm fine with that, cause I still enjoy doing things that don't give me gear.

Going forward, it's just going to be the case that one patch will be for hardcore progression and one won't. Coil will come out next patch, then after that Crystal Tower which will most likely be lower item level than turns added before.

Hopefully future turns may be longer than the ones at release, then people mightn't be as bothered having to raid it for 6 months at a time.
This is a pretty common timeline for most mmo's though. New big raid tier every 6 months. Coil is just relatively short. May be different since this was for launch.

[Mitternacht]

Amazing how many people who are complaining about this now are the same who were complaining that the current system doesn't allow you to gear multiple classes effectively.

I know, it's kind of funny and sad at the same time.

Also, considering the prices of vanity items on most cash shops out there - I think being able to farm items to template when system is implemented is pretty nice of them. Especially given S-E's history with mobile microtransactions.

[Fyreus]

They might as well do more lighting stuff to give us vanity gear in the mean time :/ Now if casual/in between/hardcore players want to start BC stuff they could easily do WP/AK/buy iLv70 gear and go with a practice group or with friends.

So... Why do the 'new' content to get middle gear they can get while gearing their alts from WP/AK/tome runs..?

[Starlord]

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Not many people have "coil like" gear. So in a "majority" way, Most people will fit in this gap. I don't understand nor like that they put Coil first before CT, but that doesn't stop me from doing the content and having Fun.

It's not all about the gear. And what difference is between Coil and CT stat wise? A couple stat in a few areas? Those are for Min/Max-ers.

[Evangela]

I don't think we have any chance to win items for alt.jobs by "Greed" in a 24 man raid like that.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

They might as well do more lighting stuff to give us vanity gear in the mean time :/ Now if casual/in between/hardcore players want to start BC stuff they could easily do WP/AK/buy iLv70 gear and go with a practice group or with friends.

So... Why do the 'new' content to get middle gear they can get while gearing their alts from WP/AK/tome runs..?

CT and extreme primals drop higher gear of darklight
@topic:
Btw, as lame it could be, that's really the only way to respond to that question: there's really no other reason to do CT for the main job if you can beat binding coil, while instead there are plenty of reasons doing it for second jobs. So, this is good for everyone who complained until yesterday they couldn't gear the second job, and that's really nothing to complain since we know forever CT is meant to be done pre-coil.
Oh wait, they do. Let me guess, what they ment with "i can't gear my second job", was instead "i can't gear my second job with free ilvl 90 af like my main". I got it right ?

[Iroukan]

hummm I know i would do it for gear's look.

[Pellegri]

It's not all about the gear. And what difference is between Coil and CT stat wise? A couple stat in a few areas? Those are for Min/Max-ers.

Well the difference is being able to kill Twintania and not being able to kill Twintania. Groups weren't even able to have real attempts at killshots till they were in primarily ilvl 90 gear, you think it's just min/max'ers who need the "couple stats" from said gear?

[Erana]

I don't think we have any chance to win items for alt.jobs by "Greed" in a 24 man raid like that.

Crystal tower will start as a 8 man dungeon.

But I see your point, later floors will likely be 24 man. Though I can see 24-man raids being restricted to Free companies, it'll easier to ask for gear dibs then.

[Mitternacht]

So... Why do the 'new' content to get middle gear they can get while gearing their alts from WP/AK/tome runs..?

Wow, I must have imagined all those posts complaining about having to do AK over and over.