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    Bichcat's Avatar
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    Bichcat Mcsleaz
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    I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.
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    Pellegri Testament
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bichcat View Post
    I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.
    So why do you need the best gear then if you're not even wanting to do the content that would require it? Dailies sure as hell won't need it and any content below coil can be done in ak or darklight, so why do you feel you HAVE TO HAVE the best gear in the game?
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    Chococo Cobo
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    Masamune
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    So why do you need the best gear then if you're not even wanting to do the content that would require it? Dailies sure as hell won't need it and any content below coil can be done in ak or darklight, so why do you feel you HAVE TO HAVE the best gear in the game?
    Why can't ppl collect gear even if they don't necessarily use it as much as you do?? Maybe it looks good or something is enough a reason to try to get it.

    You probably don't need gil too. Please give it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chococo View Post
    Why can't ppl collect gear even if they don't necessarily use it as much as you do?? Maybe it looks good or something is enough a reason to try to get it.

    You probably don't need gil too. Please give it to me.
    And maybe they can wait till there's a nerf to do the content if they want it handed to them so much for looks. This isn't about myth gear and it's ease of access, it's about people feeling like they NEED the best gear with the best stats in the game when they have no intention of doing any challenging content. Who the hell cares if it looks good, if you want it go and get it. But do not come here and say how much you need the absolute best stats on a piece of gear or the highest ilvl if you have no intention of doing the content where this gear comes from.

    If you actually read any of what I quoted from people you'd see that people aren't wanting the gear because of it's looks, they are wanting the gear because of it's stats and then directly after saying how much they NEED IT then go on to say they do not wish to do the content where the higher level gear would come from. The best gear is needed for the hardest content, if people do not want to do the content to get the best gear then they do not need the best gear.
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    Last edited by Pellegri; 11-25-2013 at 03:22 PM.

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    Cerulean Knight
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pellegri View Post
    My 2nd paragraph
    These players don't want to be left behind gearwise. Their concern is totaly valuable as they might become the persons discriminated by the future players requirement i.e "Allagan Ilv95 weapons Only/EX Primals weapon only."

    Obviously the "Iwannabehardcore" playerbase doesn't see it from the same angle, however is that a reason to be horrible to these casual players? no. don't feel concerned by this phrase as its more for the players posting 7-8 pages ago, which looks totaly retarted with their arguments full of "LOL/lmaooooooo" & I pass, players of today have nothing constructive to bring on the table.
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    Seijuro Hiko
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    weapons only, no shield
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    こんにちは。

    速報の記載と放送上のコメントとの整合性でお騒がせいたしました。
    Soraさんにフォロー頂いているとおり、「武器だけ」で間違いありません。
    Quote Originally Posted by Foxclon View Post
    こんにちは。




    取り急ぎ事実確認のみですが、盾は含まれず、文字通り武器のみが該当になります。
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    Nyne Helios
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hik0 View Post
    weapons only, no shield
    WTF SE? Y U NO LIKE BLACK MAGE?
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    Player Eagleheart's Avatar
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    Eagleheart Hellsbane
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bichcat View Post
    I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.
    Herein is the reason that Dev Team's reasoning on crafted gear being kept subpar is faulty.

    This player (no slam to you Bichcat, merely making the example) does not want to do Coil. He/she is still obtaining gear at this time on par or superior to Coils equipment. o.O

    Now Coils gear is going to i95 perhaps, but that is somewhat irrelevant unless the pieces that are not BiS have some statistics change. o.o i95 piece overflowing with redundant accuracy is still not as good as i90 with DET and CRIT in most scenarios.

    Please consider this, Dev Team, in further considerations about the role of crafting in equipment choices.
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    Arkista Valentine
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Bichcat View Post
    I was quite happy farming myth pieces knowing they were top end. Now if I want top end gear I'm FORCED to run coil wich I have no interest in doing. Way to drop the ball yet again yoshi, instead of giving us more options to gear up, your forcing us into a single,crappy,broken rng raid if we want good gear.
    Sorry but Top End gear was never Relic gear Alone it is a mix of Relic And Allagan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Allyrion View Post
    I'd be fine if they just removed allagan weapons and added a drop from Twintania that improved your relic. Though that'd be a waste of the allagan model.

    Story gear > random drops from a box
    I don't mind difficulty. I mind the loot not having any real background. Especially the weapon.
    I have a relic+1 for my MNK and I would rather have the Allagan.
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    Last edited by Arkista; 11-23-2013 at 01:46 AM.

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    Allyrion Windwalker
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    Yojimbo
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    Samurai Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkista View Post
    Sorry but Top End gear was never Relic gear Alone it is a mix of Relic And Allagan.



    I have a relic+1 for my MNK and I would rather have the Allagan.
    Well then, I don't agree with you as a person either!
    I posted about this before as well. They can make the model transform to be more powerful and for the stats to change.
    None of that really matters.
    All I'm talking about is that I don't like magical gear from boxes with no context.

    Relic upgrading is the closest thing to a sense of gear permanence and symbolism. I think they should milk it.
    And forget about anyone who disagrees with me.

    EDIT:
    At least making upgrades to the gear drop from boxes gives the sense of that you're using the power of your enemies to improve yourself rather than say.....picking up a shirt from the giant dragon twintania.
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    Last edited by Allyrion; 11-23-2013 at 02:00 AM.

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