WAR Issues left unaddressed.

[Hanabira]

i dont really see the point of reducing stun.. i use it on the first AK boss for mind flay (and 30 seconds was perfect because the ability is on 30 second timer) and for the soul summoning guy in AK, thats about it. As far as i know, nothing worth stunning is even stunnable.

[Lemon8or]

i dont really see the point of reducing stun.. i use it on the first AK boss for mind flay (and 30 seconds was perfect because the ability is on 30 second timer) and for the soul summoning guy in AK, thats about it. As far as i know, nothing worth stunning is even stunnable.

It's mostly for Ifrit HM. People were complaining that warrior+warrior is too risky for DF party so they made Brutal Swing's CD same as eruptions' CD.

[Dedayius]

It's mostly for Ifrit HM. People were complaining that warrior+warrior is too risky for DF party so they made Brutal Swing's CD same as eruptions' CD.

And this is why Ifrit HM is HORRIBLE game design. I hope to never see another encounter like that where almost the entire difficulty for the encounter is based on whether you have a paladin or not.

Also I'm all for both classes useless or nearly useless abilities being fixed and made more interesting. Less cooldowns, more active abilities please!

[ExarKun007]

And this is why Ifrit HM is HORRIBLE game design. I hope to never see another encounter like that where almost the entire difficulty for the encounter is based on whether you have a paladin or not.

Also I'm all for both classes useless or nearly useless abilities being fixed and made more interesting. Less cooldowns, more active abilities please!

You don't need a paladin, it just makes it easier with pugs that don't have voice com to coordinate stuns that have cooldowns.

[Dedayius]

You don't need a paladin, it just makes it easier with pugs that don't have voice com to coordinate stuns that have cooldowns.

You are correct that you don't need a paladin, but having one makes it significantly easier. That's my issue with it. I would much prefer fights to be slightly easier/harder based on class composition so that the encounter is always challenging rather than being trivialized simply because you have X class. Encounters that are designed like this will lead to community requirements of certain classes or people won't run the dungeon and I would prefer to not see that happen so that every class is always welcome to every encounter.

[Shinkyo]

I would much prefer fights to be slightly easier/harder based on class composition so that the encounter is always challenging rather than being trivialized simply because you have X class.

Yep, Iffrit HM was one of the most frustrating fight for me...
Not because it gave our group a hard time but because it was the first time I felt PLD could do something that WAR couldn't.
I'd be ok if we were just less efficient, but in that can it's impossible to interrupt all eruption on our own like PLD can... I was really pissed.

Still, I had the most fun when I had to coordinate stun with another WAR. It felt great doing it that way (the intended one?).

But for any other content, I'll take WAR's stun other PLD's anytime so I can't really complain!!!

[ExarKun007]

The current stun is incredibly cumbersome to use, the wind up is so long that most abilities have gone off by the time you can use it.

[Judge_Xero]

The current stun is incredibly cumbersome to use, the wind up is so long that most abilities have gone off by the time you can use it.

I've never experienced that with Warrior stun. For me it's typically a 1/4 charge bar in length for the Stun Effect.
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I like all the changes as it's very balanced with Paladin, I just wish they kept with the Warrior design of HP Absorb = Mitigation.

If it was possible to track, I think they should have tied Wrath to damage taken. 1/12th of Max HP Damage taken = 1 Stack

Vengeance - 1/24th of Max HP Damage Taken = 1 Stack (+ the Normal function)

Inner Beast - Keep 300% Damage into HP - Add Increased Enmity

Steel Cyclone - Add Absorb 50% of Damage Dealt + Increased Enmity

Foresight - CD should be 90s - Lvl 14 Enhanced Foresight should add - Increases Parry by 60%

Because Paladin has both Block and Parry - Warrior should learn a Trait that 50% of Parried Damage is recovered as HP.
Example: 2000 Damage hit - 25% Parried - 12.5% Healed - Total Mitigation 37.5%

I think that design would tie in really well with the New Holmgang as well, since when it wears off you will be at 1HP without any heals. You should be at full Wrath Stacks from Damage taken to get to that point, so before it wears off:

Berserk, Internal Release, Second Wind - IB + Infuriate + IB