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    Horaiyo Shirou
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    Summoners, cap pet accuracy or no?

    I’m just curious whether other summoners think capping pet accuracy is worth it. I’m trying to finalize my gear progression plan since we just got into t5, but I can’t decide whether I think it’s worth it or not. Any input would be appreciated.
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    You'll want ~440-~442 accuracy(without food). This will give you a ~2-3% miss rate. If you can get a bigger piece, like Allagan legs over AF2 and maintain ~442 accuracy, do it. The crit is worth the loss, but if you're sacrificing for DET/SS then it is not worth it. If you dip down to 435, using AF2 legs will be a DPS increase over Allagan.

    Capping, for the pet, is only necessary if you're currently progressing on Turn 5 and having trouble with short conflags/dreadknights.

    Personally, I'm going to cap it, especially because a miss can't be just factored into DPS. A miss during Rouse/Spur has a lot more weight than a normal one, and a missed Enkindle is something you don't want to do.

    Crafted Earrings
    Allagan Boots/Legs/Ring
    Myth everything else

    There are other ways to get to the cap if you want to switch some pieces around, such as using all 90, allagan belt, allagan earrings, etc.

    I've found this to be the best tradeoff.

    It's 4 Int 17(11) DET 14 SS or 50 Crit and whatever else you slot on the earring. 6 DET/8VIT/6PIE.


    Edit: When I say "cap," I'm talking about the assumed 450 for the pet. I don't have all the pieces yet to parse this.
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    Last edited by Kevee; 11-20-2013 at 04:55 AM.

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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    I just want to point out that say, losing 1% pet dps is okay when you consider you might be gaining 1% or more in other offstats.

    Unless contagion misses of course, thats lame, but with a 99% hit chance this will happen once in a blue moon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    I just want to point out that say, losing 1% pet dps is okay when you consider you might be gaining 1% or more in other offstats.
    Pretty much this.

    The break point is ~3% Pet accuracy = ~1% Summoner DPS, or ~4% Pet DPS:~1% Summoner DPS
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    Last edited by Kevee; 11-20-2013 at 02:02 PM.

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    After examining all of the gear and what I would think is 'best in slot' if I managed to get really lucky on drops, I am going to have to agree with Kevee's estimation. I'm at exactly 440 right now (minus food) and I'm comfortable with it. It's just rather frustrating that food does not affect pet accuracy, since food will give me even more of an accuracy bonus anyway.

    Right now, I'm using AFv2 head/body/hands, Allagan feet/legs, Hero's ring... and DL everything else. As Kevee has said, with the exception of the Allagan ring (to fill the 2nd ring slot), Myth (Hero's gear) looks like the way to go. The 451 acc (11 added from the myth belt) seems very much like overkill, but you won't want to risk a single miss from Garuda during progression of turn 5. I'll likely buy the belt next, followed by bracelet/neck and crafted earrings (whenever I get the money..).
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    Thanks for the input. I'll work towards 440 and decide from there whether I want to go for cap pet acc. With my drop luck that's gonna be a while, so I have time to decide between the two.
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    Honestly you don't need 440 accuracy. Capping your own accuracy with food (so it adds up to ~424) is more than enough for turn 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxalucard View Post
    Honestly you don't need 440 accuracy. Capping your own accuracy with food (so it adds up to ~424) is more than enough for turn 5.
    You should get to 440-445 accuracy because anything less and it's a DPS loss due to pet accuracy, and how little side-stats add in comparison to other sidestats. If you sit at 435 accuracy with Allagan legs, it's a DPS gain to switch to AF2 legs. Anything lower, and it's even more of a DPS gain.

    Food DOES NOT WORK WITH PETS. Not to mention 424 is not our own accuracy cap. Right now, it's confirmed as low as 434.

    If you're sitting at 414/415 and using HQ Stuffed Cabbage to get to the current known cap, you're doing less DPS than if you equipped more accuracy gear and used crit food.
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    Last edited by Kevee; 11-21-2013 at 07:11 AM.

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    Cesil Rapture
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    I'm going to cap mine...(Well I have already) my stats are pretty balanced atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevee View Post
    You should get to 440-445 accuracy because anything less and it's a DPS loss due to pet accuracy, and how little side-stats add in comparison to other sidestats. If you sit at 435 accuracy with Allagan legs, it's a DPS gain to switch to AF2 legs. Anything lower, and it's even more of a DPS gain.

    Food DOES NOT WORK WITH PETS. Not to mention 424 is not our own accuracy cap. Right now, it's confirmed as low as 434.

    If you're sitting at 414/415 and using HQ Stuffed Cabbage to get to the current known cap, you're doing less DPS than if you equipped more accuracy gear and used crit food.
    To be fair I feel you're over-estimating the pet's DPS quite a bit. More crit = more dps, especially considering that our primary damage is with our DoTs and fester. Those crit DoT tics and crit festers will add up to much more damage than what you'd lose by the pet missing a little more.
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